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JT
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2009 11:01:01 PM

Do you think that using taxpayer subsidies to get inefficient vehicles off the road (such as the US "cash for clunkers" program) is a good idea?
Yes
No
Undecided
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Post your thoughts about this poll below.
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achung53
Veteran Author Orange County

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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2012 9:46:13 AM

No
pkhdonovan
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2011 4:41:38 AM

no
pcprof
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2011 1:02:22 AM

No
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2011 10:20:02 PM

NO, THEY WOULD JUST GO BUY ANOTHER ONE. DO LIKE CALIF, IF THEY DON'T PAST THE SMOG TEST;THEY COME OFF THE ROAD.
Boorus
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2011 7:06:38 AM

No
googlee
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2011 6:13:12 AM

yes
777Aviator
Champion Author St. Louis

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Message Posted: Jul 11, 2011 7:28:05 PM

Yes. They should do the same thing for "oil burners"
PusaKuting
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2011 5:06:08 PM

yes
estroh
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2011 12:39:23 AM

Yes
777Aviator
Champion Author St. Louis

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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2011 10:16:36 AM

Yes, I bought a more efficient vehicle. Thanks....
HardeepWA
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2011 3:14:49 AM

No.
pkhdonovan
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2011 2:47:44 PM

no - we can't afford it
LXH18
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2011 2:02:19 PM

no
mattsage
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2011 8:20:43 AM

no
bja0030
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Message Posted: May 13, 2011 8:40:16 PM

NO
DB2008
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2011 6:48:30 AM

no
dongo50
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2011 6:13:59 AM

some people can't afford new vehicles, also some people need large powerful trucks. life is sometimes more than riding your butt around town and hauling groceries. a go-cart or bicycle can't haul even 1 ton.
wrunner
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2011 5:03:43 PM

No, there are other ways like tow them away as safety hazards.
SAVEITIL
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2010 1:31:46 AM

NO
bja0030
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2010 9:36:53 AM

no
fuel1971
Rookie Author San Antonio

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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2010 10:53:35 PM

NO
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: May 7, 2010 9:36:57 PM

NO
bja0030
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2010 9:42:34 AM

no
BobD2009
Champion Author Long Island

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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2010 9:05:52 AM

The Cash for Clunkers is another government scam that won't work. It just is another case of wasteful government deficit spending.
HFAJR0034
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Message Posted: Dec 24, 2009 6:23:16 PM

NO
1prettywoman
Rookie Author Greensboro

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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2009 10:28:55 AM

Absolutely not!
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2009 8:58:07 AM

NO!IT'S A WAY TO PUT OUR TAX DOLLAR INTO SOME BODY'S POCKET
THE ONLY ONE'S I'VE SEEN THAT QUALIFY IS THE LOW INCOME OR
PEOPLE ON HELP ASSISTANCE.THEY'LL FINE OUT DOWN THE ROAD THAT
THEY CAN'T AFFORD THE PAYMENTS.I TOOK MY OLD GAS GUSLER TRUCK
DOWN AND WAS GOING TO BUY A NEW ONE AND THEY TOLD ME I DIDN'T
QUALIFY. I MADE TO MUCH MONEY.
Drive2muchGA
Rookie Author Georgia

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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2009 1:02:58 PM

I see I'm a little late posting but I had to.
Here's my take: If the vehicles were so "inefficient" to begin with, the owner of the vehicle would have enough incentive to make a new purchase on their own!! Without forcing the cost of THEIR new investment off on ME (US) the taxpayer(s), who get nothing out of the deal. Obviously, if it were so vastly inefficient, it would behoove the owner to act on his/her own.

Are they next going to make the taxpayers subsidize everyone's purchase of a new washing machine, because the current owners of the old style "less efficient" (i.e., not HE - high efficiency) washers don't feel the need to dole out the extra bucks to pay for one?

Good grief, .. watch my mouth!! They might be getting ideas......
HFAJR0034
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2009 11:04:48 PM

no
Head Ham
Rookie Author Chicago

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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 8:18:16 AM

The numbers didn't add up. The money invested by the Feds will never offset the oil saved. I am also looking forward if anyone will follow up on how many of these new cars will be re-possessed in the up coming months when the buyers figure out they can't afford the payments. Sure the program was a temporary shot in the arm for the automakers, but look how badly sales fell the month after the program ended.
bootsTX
Rookie Author Fort Worth

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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2009 12:17:43 PM

No. It was a bad idea and a waste of money from the get-go. In effect, it had so many, many loopholes that people cheated (legally) and made a mockery of the program. Now junk yards have excellent nearly new cars that they cannot sell (under penality of fines and jail time) but are forced to part out. Stupid, stupid, stupid idea. When will Washington learn to stay out of these "do good" projects that are so poorly thought through!??!
phawgare
Rookie Author Dayton

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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2009 5:51:02 AM

NO NO WHY SHOULD WE PAY MORE TAXES ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
ROCKMANAZ
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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2009 7:35:51 PM

TAXES... DON'T WE ALREADY PAY MORE THAN ENOUGH?? SO WHAT, NOW WE ARE "ALL" FORCED TO PAY FOR ANOTHER WASTEFUL PROGRAM THAT THE GOVERNMENT, WAIT, OUR ELECTED THIEVES HAVE PUT ON OUR SHOULDERS? WHEN WILL THEY LEARN THAT TAXES COME FROM THE PEOPLE THAT PUT THEM IN OFFICE... THOSE SAME PEOPLE ARE GETTING PISSED!!!

NO
changpk
Rookie Author San Francisco

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Message Posted: Sep 19, 2009 6:15:57 PM

yes, there is a higher cause than ourselves.
TAT36
Champion Author Florida

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2009 2:32:53 PM

600 thousand (official figures) out of a projected 9 million cars sold this year. Less than of 1% for 3 billion dollars equates to about a half a days oil production. This along with destroying good engines and transmissions that some people who could not afford the "new" car may need and will now cost them $2000 instead of $500 sounds like a good deal to me if you don't do the math that makes it not workable.
saturn96
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2009 2:46:44 PM

no
saturn96
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2009 2:46:18 PM

no
saturn96
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Message Posted: Sep 15, 2009 2:46:04 PM

no
djtdi
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2009 6:05:45 PM

no
gasman60
Rookie Author Nebraska

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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2009 5:42:15 PM

No
NestCA
Rookie Author Los Angeles

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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2009 11:03:31 PM

No. Taxpayers should not be penalized by using tax dollars.
Spunkie353
Rookie Author Portland

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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2009 1:39:44 PM

So all the old cars have to be destroyed. They go to the metal recyclers and after they are shredded up, on a ship they go to China. None of the money from the old car is kept in the US. Who are the real people benefitting from this program?
DeadMan09
Rookie Author San Antonio

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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2009 8:22:39 AM

Undecided
HFAJR0034
Champion Author New Mexico

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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2009 9:42:36 AM

no
Spike294
Sophomore Author South Carolina

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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2009 10:48:29 AM

Yes

this is a way to get the economy moving again and get the older gas guzzlers off the road.
a351c
Champion Author Mississippi

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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2009 1:36:54 AM

Only one word to answer "NOT"
GypsyNY
Rookie Author Lancaster

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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2009 1:53:23 AM

oh yea get the "clunkers off the road. Had one break down and almost caused an accident ! although there is a yearly inspection, they're more likely to cost us all money in repairs,, i know i was almost a victim! Highways are no joke,,even driving less then 10 miles and hour we can get serioulsy hurt CARS ARE DANGEROUS..I see children is some of these clunkers and I am concerned for them to. Geez... air bags and new safety features aren't in these cars ! GET THEM OFF THE ROAD., WE NO LONGER LIVE IN THE DARK AGES...its not right for the have's and the have nots'
our government needs to really wake up and see they have opened pandoras box... in an ironic way watch this America, soon enough some ones gonna cash in on this in a way thats gonna blow the presidents mind...!
tgolf
Champion Author Washington

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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2009 7:35:51 PM

Funny, but the only folks I know that bought new cars under the plan were my right wing friends. They're the ones with the gas hogs, so right after foaming at the mouth about what a nazi obama is, they go buy cars under the deal. Brag about what a great deal they got then start right in with how Obama is killing the American deam....Doesn't anybody remember who and how we got into this mess....BUSH/Cheney

My left wing friends tried to buy, but they already had cars that got OK mileage, really could have used a break 180K plus miles on their cars....so no deal for them.

Cheers!!!
illini73
Sophomore Author Oklahoma City

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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2009 9:42:14 AM

Lots of vehicles have been sold but I'm not sure it was a great plan. At least it will stimulate the auto industry for a little while.
CrackedLCD
Champion Author Alabama

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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2009 3:33:16 AM

Have any of the dealers gotten paid yet? Last I heard on Friday something like 14 dealers had gotten checks out of the thousands selling in the CARS program.
wbpprint
Champion Author Chicago

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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2009 10:20:24 AM

As usual the Gov't did not think things through. I have it from a reliable source that car dealers knew when this was program was starting and held back done deals for a few weeks. This is why there was such a "success" in the first few days. My only question is did the people whose deals were held up get the benefit or did the dealers get the $3500-$4500 for their pockets?
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