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CAPTAIN_JAMES

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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2009 9:29:23 PM

While many Super Bowls have been a blow out, and over by half time. This one kept me on the edge of my seat until the final clock tick. My vote is that tonights game was the BEST in the history of the Super Bowls.
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BuzzBomb
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2009 5:35:32 PM

dakine, the chop never occurred because Harrison saw it coming. It was a pretty week attempt but I think Harrison just got fed up with it.
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dakine
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2009 7:19:22 AM

Buzz, I did not see the chop block. If that happened, I could see why Harrison reacted that way. Chop blocks can end a players career and it certainly can evoke a nasty response.
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longhorn90
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2009 7:13:13 AM

Guys, the game is over. Let Pittsburgh fans celebrate and let's all move on - to the Pro Bowl - yuck. Now its just time for the waiting game until next year.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2009 6:13:39 AM

The Chadster is back & his knowledge of the game is still poor!

Penalties were pretty even & none determined the outcome of the game.

Hey Chadster, are you related to Holmgren? How about bringing something to the discussion!
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BuzzBomb
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 8:11:33 PM

Actually chad they got the call wrong on Ben's TD because it was called a TD and there was nothing conclusive to overturn...but they did and I don't care. We won.

Harrison could not have been thrown out because there was no punch. If you think he should have been tossed then you'd be forced to agree that the player on the sideline that took liberty of a shove on Ike Taylor's 15 yd penalty should also be tossed.

And since someone will mention it, Woodley did not block Hightower in the back on Harrison's 100 yd pick six. If he did then Hightower would have landed on his chest. Instead he was pushed on the right front of his shoulder pad, spun around and landed on his okole (Hawaiian for butt). If anyone wants to call this a block in the back then they will have to agree that Fitz committed a block in the back on Boldin's reception in the 2nd qtr that got them down to the 5.

Moral to the story chad is that you only saw what you wanted to see. This game was called as well as any other game...well except for the one that gave your horseheads a freebie.

[Edited by: BuzzBomb at 2/4/2009 9:12:26 PM EST]
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chadta
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 4:41:49 PM

the roughing the holder was just stupid,its a penalty and had to be called, I had a bigger problem with the roughing the quarterback penalty, that was cheap, as for the ben almost touchdown, they refs finally got one right, harrison should have been thrown out for what was in no way a football play, and dice dont call it 15 yards when the ball was already on the 1 it was a 6 inch penalty.

so yeah the refs were bad, and yeah once again the steelers got more then there fair share of the calls there way, but honestly, what makes more money for the nfl, a cardnials victory ? half the people in phoenix didnt even care that they were playing, or a steelers victory.

but its ok cuz matt lienart didnt get a ring, so im happy.

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gary12345
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 4:22:23 PM

It is hard to say which one was thew best. I'm old enough to have seen everyone except when I was in Nam in 69. There have been a few, but this was right up there with the tops for good games.
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BuzzBomb
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 12:35:34 PM

Harrison snapped because the guy was trying to chop block him. He was mad because he felt the guy was trying to take the cheap route and take his knees out. Harrison has faced holds and dirty chop blocks all year long and he very rarely gets them called.

Yes, his actions were uncalled for but I can certainly put myself in his shoes if I felt someone was trying to ruin my livelyhood. No way would an ejection be warranted. He did not punch him. He did shove him unnecessarily.

As for inconsistent officiating, I only saw 2 plays that fall under that label. The first was Big Ben's touchdown that was taken back. I did not see conclusive evidence to overturn it. The second was not having the field officials review the Warner fumble. Everything else was of the same garden variety, this way or that way calls that you see in every other NFL game.

Why is it no one says anything about the possible hold that took place on Eli Manning's scrambling pass to Tyree last year? That would have negated the play and most likely changed the outcome. I'll tell you why...because generally the nation wants to see the underdog win and they did. No need to put up an argument if the desired outcome holds true (pardon the pun). The same holds true for this game. The nation wanted to see the underdog again...fortunately Steeler Nation is more powerful than the nation! LOL
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TDice
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 10:38:16 AM

There was bad calls both ways. But no penalty decided the game. We all don't need another Holmgren-type pity party.

As far as the roughing the holder call, something had to be called. Wilson is a tough player, but pick on somebody else other than a soon-to-be unemployed punter.

As for Harrison, no way an ejection there. The 15 yards were enough. NONE of us knows what that guy did to him earlier, or what he was saying during his rope-a-dope punishment. If the refs thought it was flagrant enough, they wold have sent James to an early shower. We all know its the guy with the last hit who gets the penalty.

longhorn, not sure where you were going, but re-read my first 02/02/09 post. I've never said that this was the best SB ever.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 9:25:05 AM

Yup it was inconsistent. And yeah Harrison shoulda been ejected. And that holding call on Hartwig in the end zone was a make up call for the roughing the passer call on Ben earlier. Neither should have been called.

Not trying to pick a fight, dakine. Just stating fact!
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dakine
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 8:29:14 AM

Smoke you are right on... Scout just wants to pick a fight with me, which wouldn't be a good thing. The officiating was very inconsistent. Harrison should have been thrown out of the game. Roughing the holder was an acting job. Nevertheless, it had no impact upon the final score.
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JP2005
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 8:24:11 AM

He should have been Ejected.
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14smoke
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2009 5:25:27 AM

Scout, Dakine didn't say that bad officiating cost the Cardinals the game, nor did he say that it handed a win to the Steelers, he merely stated that the officiating was "inconsistent".

I tend to agree with him. I thought this was a poorly officiated game. I don't really think it had an impact on the outcome though.

As for Harrison punching the Cardinals player, everyone at the viewing party I was at thought he should have been ejected. Bad judgement on Harrison's part.
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taximan007
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 11:30:06 PM

I wouldn't call it the best ever, but definitely in the top-5.

Congrats to the Steelers, the Rooney family and you terrible towel waving fans on your record 6th Lombardi trophy.



[Edited by: taximan007 at 2/4/2009 12:31:40 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 3:44:35 PM

Bad officiating did not allow the Steelers to win nor prevent the Cards from winning. That so-called defense the Cards have is what lost the game for them.

Again, dakine, your lack of football knowledge shines through!

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 2/3/2009 4:44:46 PM EST]
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chadta
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 2:57:13 PM

superbowl 32 denver green bay, still my favorite, not only did my team win but it was a great game, alot of back and forth, but im a little biased.

elway would have been proud of ben this year, he showed john like poise and ability, you can tell how big of an influence john was by the way ben plays.
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playtimeCLE
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 2:54:40 PM

Great game! But not the best ever. There have been a few that were won & lost in the last second by a couple feet.
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C.S.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 9:29:07 AM

I still thought the game was exciting at the end, but not the greatest SB ever. Since it was back-and-forth at the end, it was one of the better games. But because of excessive penalties and bonehead plays (especially by Harrison), this doesn't rank in the top 5 IMO.

A few calls were questionable, but didn't decide the game. I thought Ben got the TD at the end of the first drive and was shocked that the call was reversed. The last play may've been a fumble, but should've been reviewed. But the next Hail Mary play would've had very little chance of being successful. So the Steelers did earn their victory IMO.

I think the fact that the Cards, Ravens, and several other teams couldn't stop Pittsburgh on their game-winning drives is a tribute to Ben as a clutch performer. He doesn't get great stats and takes too many sacks. But he knows how to WIN, which is what counts.

While I loved SB XX as a Bears fan, I agree that it was a bad game to neutral NFL fans.
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dakine
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 8:23:20 AM

Harrison played a great game. However, he was foolish in attacking a Cardinal on the sideline. He was very lucky that they did not lose, otherwise fingers would have been pointed at him.

I thought the officiating was bad. It was inconsistent.
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longhorn90
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 7:32:22 AM

With all due respect to fans of the Steelers (TDice for sure) and the Cards - this was one of the most exciting Super Bowls - in the 4th quarter. But the game itself was not played great. Both teams had opportunities to take an advantage and niether really took their opportunities. Cards - you're such a good pass coverage team that you can afford to rush only 3-4 guys? And to top it off, you basically let the Steelers receivers run free. Steelers - you gained what - 30 yards in the 3rd quarter when you could have put the game away?

In the whole shceme of things, I was just glad the game ended up being close. Congrats to the Steel City on Super Bowl win #6.
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14smoke
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2009 5:35:49 AM

I am not saying this was one of the worst Super Bowl's I've ever seen, that would be mistaking my statement.

All I'm saying is that the game didn't really get good until about the 4th quarter, and one quarter does not a game make.

Same for last year. Largely a very boring Super Bowl up until the last 5 minutes or so, then a lot of excitement.

Super Bowls 13(Pittsburgh-Dallas) and 34(Rams-Titans) are the ones that stick out to me as the best ones I've seen.

Anyone that thinks a blow-out of 46-10, or the 55-10 shellacking that San Fran put on Denver being "one of the best" is obviously biased. Those weren't games, they were humiliations and all the drama was gone from them way too early.
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TDice
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 10:32:15 PM

The bottom line on the last Cardinal play being a fumble or not shouldn't have mattered anyway. All their swiss cheese defense had to do was stop the Steelers from driving 88 yards for a game winning TD, with under 2 minutes left in the game. Something the Ravens couldn't do either this season.
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ShanC
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 9:44:47 PM

I believe it would be hard to have such "bad officiating" with all the reviews and "challenges".

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bear8882
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 9:26:50 PM

The best Superbowl I ever saw was when my team won it.
SUPER BOWL XX
BEARS 46
PATS 10
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chadta
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 8:35:22 PM

oh come on dice, they finally got a call right on ben and his "touchdown" there was alot of ticky tacky stuff called, like the 3 drive extending penalties on the second to last steelers score, but other then that i thought the game was equally badly reffed, im kinda puzzled as to why they didnt even review that last play, as i kinda think it was an incomplete pass, awesome catch on the game winner, and yes both feet were in.
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BuzzBomb
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 7:43:38 PM

Bad officiating? No it was not! There was some ticky tack stuff being called but that was it. There were no badly blown calls...unless of course you are one of those that calls yourself a football fan while sipping the whine (oops, freudian slip) and eating brie and crackers.
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dakine
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 7:29:42 PM

Bad officiating...
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reg366
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 5:15:43 PM

Hats off to the Steelers on #6,and overall that was one hell of a game played by both teams!
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 4:32:38 PM

I think it was an incomplete pass at the end and Ben scored as I didn't see clear evidence his knee hit the ground.

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BuzzBomb
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 3:52:15 PM

Double Yoi on that Dice!
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TDice
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 3:37:48 PM

The penalties were 11 for AZ and 7 for Pittsburgh. Hardly disproportional.
If the last play was a fumble, then Bens scramble into the end zone was a TD.
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ShanC
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 12:10:30 PM

>One of the most penalized SB's!

We were goofing on all the calls, especially with so many being against the Cardinals.
"Looking at the other guy funny. 5 yard penalty- Cardinals!"
"Not enough time of possession. Loss of possession- Cardinals!"
The best one from one guy: "Having a red bird on your helmet. 10 yard penalty!"

And how about that near-fist-fight? It was better than the WWE.
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PAHighways
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 12:02:32 PM

Whether it was "The Best" Super Bowl or not would be a tough call, but it is definitely in the top five.
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JP2005
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 11:22:10 AM

One of the most penalized SB's!
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55nwo
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 11:16:58 AM

the superbowl last year was better and im not saying that because i am a giants fan.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 10:43:55 AM

Yeah there were some questionable calls. There always are! It's part of the game!

That was the kind of game the Super Bowl is supposed to be! A battle! And it was! And the best team won!
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TDice
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 10:32:27 AM

How about the best "4th quarter of a Super Bowl, or at least the last 3 minutes of a SB 4th Qtr." then?

Buzz, no doubt something was said to Harrison to set him off. But other than looking cheap, it was only a 6 inch penalty and he didn't get thrown out of the game.

AFSNCO, you're exactly right about the rookie-type mistake by Warner on that play. The whiner Holmgren even mentioned that at the end of the game. Harrison suckered him and read it perfectly. Townsend tried to wrestle it out of his hands, probably thinking that Harrison would never make that football field long trek to the end zone. Maybe use Harrison on our goal-line offense, eh?
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jayrad1957
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 9:57:32 AM

Steelers and Cowboys, late 70's was the best I remember. Bradshaw vs. Staubach,that was about the best duel I know of. Super Bowl 13. 35-31 Pittsburgh.
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 8:27:00 AM

One of the best but not the best.
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AFSNCO
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 7:30:41 AM

Last two Super Bowls the fans have gotten their money's worth.

ESPN had the Holmes' catch as the best play every in the Super Bowl but I really would think that Harrison's interception return should be and after people digest it a little more probably will be. It could have been 14 - 10 Cardinals at the half or even 10 - 10....instead it was 17 - 7. Huge play by Harrison and bad mistake by a veteran QB.
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 7:21:03 AM

It was up there as one of the best, buuut
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 7:20:15 AM

Sloppy? Man you guys need to get away from the chalkboard.

What more do you want than excitement?
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 7:13:31 AM

I don't think it was the greatest one ever. Far too sloppy and the officials were too big a part of the game. One of the most exciting ones, yes.
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14smoke
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2009 6:19:30 AM

I cannot say that this one was the best Super Bowl of all time. Keep in mind that while they last quarter to quarter and a half were fantastic, it was a fairly sloppy game with almost 20 penalities between the two teams.
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BuzzBomb
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2009 11:46:05 PM

redjeep, that certainly was uncalled for on Harrison's behalf. From the replay it certainly looked as though something very wrong was said to set him off. Nonetheless, you gotta let what whatever is said slide.

There was another guy from Kent State that took no crap from anyone either...now what was his name?...hmmm. LOL
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2009 10:42:52 PM

It ended up being a 100 yarder. He would of won MVP if he didnt get that cheap flag towards the end. THat was really uncalled for. I was so mad at him
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2009 10:41:38 PM

I agree.

Biggest play in the Harrison 99 yard INT return, which was a 10-14 point swing.

The Cardinals rallying from 13 down which would have been the biggest come back in Super Bowl history.

A Rice-like performance from Larry Fitzgerald.

The final drive by Holmes and the Steelers.
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2009 9:56:22 PM

Exciting? Yes...at the end. Best ever? No. Sloppily played by both sides, a few questionable calls, and way too many penalties. Last year's game was better.
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2009 9:51:10 PM

I think tonight's game was actually kind of lackluster until the 4th quarter. I thought it was better than last year, but probably not the best of all time. Top three though.
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2009 9:48:17 PM

Well I think last years game was better. Giants 17 New England 14.

Two more I thought were better are 1968 Jets beat Colts and 1989 when 49ers beat Bengals on last minute drive.

Today's game will probably make my top 10 maybe top 5.
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