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by flyboyUT  Dec 11, 2014

define birth--- is it defined as "natural birth" that is really highly variable or maybe a surgical birth. I require a point where we can agree - before this point in time human life is not possible adn does not exist and after this point in time human life does exist adn is possible. To me the only point that meets this criteria (harsh that it may be) is when the two gametes unite. Before that regardless of what anyone does (at present) human life does not exist. However after that point human life is possible and will grow to maturity given luck and suitable help.

by flyboyUT  Dec 11, 2014

Amen on the govt butting out of the decisions people make. But here is a tough one. Can the parents decide to "about" a almost born, a new born, a kid not yet in school etc. Where is the limit and why there? Does society have a right to step in and make some rules - why or why not? What rules - what rationale for them.

by flyboyUT  Dec 11, 2014

Lots of interesting ideas to bat around. human/person - semantics for the most part. There are adults who I probably would classify as not really human and for sure not a person of regard. However based on what I know of biology I can only conclude that a human/person with the unique DNA of an individual comes into existance when teh zygote is formed. Yes I know lots of these die before birth. Lots of humans die of vrious ages all the time. The idea of its not a person because it cant live on its own wont wash either. HOw many folks do you know as adults could live on their own without lots of help? How many newborns can live without substantial assistance. The whole subject is interesting but oh so fraught with emotion and then people toss in religion to complicate it even further.

by flyboyUT  Dec 10, 2014

You said in a topic post - "it's non-viable, with no brain and not even much of a nervous system. It's a potential person, not an actual person." The first (unkind) thought that popped into mind was - hell that describes a lot of voters...... - - - -- I would like to discuss the subject of when is a human a human but I think the rest of the folks would get upset if we continued in that topic.

by Charlie_H  Dec 03, 2014

Yes, I've seen him around. I don't like paying taxes but I only really resent wasteful expenditures. Well, what *I* think are wasteful expenditures. Opinions differ! Have a great day!

by gas_too_high  Nov 04, 2014

Your home state just out the Republicans over the top to retake the Senate. But of course, I bet you stayed home, Thanks for your support. :-) GTH

by teafortwo  Sep 26, 2014

Thanks for your comments ;0}

by 2parrots  Aug 25, 2014

Despite being abandoned by his father & mother ,Barry Sotero was raised by his grandmother .He was so grateful ,he described her as " A typical white person " .I have yet to see his descriptions of his parents ,especially that of his father .Oh crap, that would mean he would have to speak the truth .

by dallfo  Aug 21, 2014

For once, I am in total agreement with you.

by dallfo  Jul 30, 2014

I'm a Catholic Conservative Republican Programmer, my wife is a Baptist Liberal Democrat Physician. There are many things we'll never see eye to eye on. We've both learned to listen to each other and have learned from doing so. I have friends that are both liberals and conservatives. I respect other people's opinions even if they're the exact opposite of mine. Nice talking with you. Have a good evening

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