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Gasoline situation in NYC shocking, still a problem

GasBuddy Blog -- Sandy is long gone. Many would have expected that any lingering gasoline availability issues that had been a problem to be long gone by now. Quite the opposite in fact. I traveled to New York City this week to assist where possible with local and federal officials who were seeking any assistance from our organization and what I saw was shocking.

Gasoline stations still had long lines, even today, as rationing takes hold. Perhaps most stunning, is that numbers we compiled today utilizing the data from our spotters is that three out of four gas stations in the NYC area remain without gasoline to sell. Just 24% of gas stations today in the five boroughs had gasoline available- well over a week after Sandy had dissipated. Truly stunning...

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Submitted Nov 09, 2012 By: PD

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Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,426 Points:424,850 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 5:05:30 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Why is this still a problem?
txrojo2005 All-Star Author Austin Posts:768 Points:481,295 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 3:11:55 PM Ignore txrojo2005 Report Abuse Prices should have floated up to relieve the shortage and then come down. But if prices were held the same for two months, then I could see the problem persisting through today.
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,457 Points:2,231,875 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 12:35:28 AM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse You do realize this news is almost 2 months old???
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,426 Points:424,850 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 6:53:12 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Why is this happening, isn't FEMA and this Administration doing their job.
Robert44 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,584 Points:1,221,870 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 6:37:40 PM Ignore Robert44 Report Abuse Regime should be held accountable.
Robert44 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,584 Points:1,221,870 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 6:37:35 PM Ignore Robert44 Report Abuse Regime should be held accountable.
Robert44 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,584 Points:1,221,870 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 6:37:30 PM Ignore Robert44 Report Abuse Regime should be held accountable.
txrojo2005 All-Star Author Austin Posts:768 Points:481,295 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 9:58:49 AM Ignore txrojo2005 Report Abuse And what were the gas prices before, during and afterwards?
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:10,106 Points:2,321,380 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 8:32:58 AM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse Gas is available..............at a price.
carolfitz4438 Veteran Author New York Posts:251 Points:186,945 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 10:32:44 PM Ignore carolfitz4438 Report Abuse Yikes
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,426 Points:424,850 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 8:43:32 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Oh my.
sarasotasingle Sophomore Author Sarasota Posts:201 Points:237,630 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 12:58:34 PM Ignore sarasotasingle Report Abuse Too Many people are still dealing with the effects
99dakota Champion Author Providence Posts:8,117 Points:2,174,725 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 6:40:42 AM Ignore 99dakota Report Abuse what a mess
WanderDan All-Star Author Dayton Posts:591 Points:145,210 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 10:43:11 PM Ignore WanderDan Report Abuse shows how fragile our energy sytem is and how vulnerable we are
mfgendron All-Star Author New York Posts:689 Points:309,860 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 9:52:56 AM Ignore mfgendron Report Abuse This does not sound good for NYC.
99dakota Champion Author Providence Posts:8,117 Points:2,174,725 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 5:05:16 AM Ignore 99dakota Report Abuse This story is not being given the coverage it deserves... Lots of people are still suffering.
pilotmass Champion Author Boston Posts:1,836 Points:504,560 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 8:27:37 AM Ignore pilotmass Report Abuse Article is a month old folks.
mabrams184 Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,109 Points:534,990 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 9:22:59 PM Ignore mabrams184 Report Abuse Too much red tape to get things done quickly. Maybe if it was still on the national new things would get better quicker
Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:5,972 Points:1,277,725 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 1:39:10 AM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse It's all going to take some time to rebuild.
Pete12 Champion Author Albany Posts:4,878 Points:1,645,955 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 9:20:30 PM Ignore Pete12 Report Abuse Well it's always been way higher in NYC anyway.
MinnesotaDJ Champion Author Minnesota Posts:4,761 Points:776,415 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 4:43:49 PM Ignore MinnesotaDJ Report Abuse What a shame, I pray these people get resolution. They have been through enough already!
txrojo2005 All-Star Author Austin Posts:768 Points:481,295 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 11:45:02 AM Ignore txrojo2005 Report Abuse If the price would go up to reflect the shortage, then more oil companies would move more gas to the region. With prices set at the same level there is no incentive for companies to work these areas. Raise the prices for a short period and gas should come rapidly to the area. Then prices will settle out. Let free market work.
CapriceWagon All-Star Author Washington Posts:949 Points:481,020 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 2:05:47 PM Ignore CapriceWagon Report Abuse Can you really be shocked by anything that happens in NYC?
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,448 Points:1,326,225 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 1:28:41 PM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse It would be wise to top off your tank before driving into the city. Also, I have heard that many gas station tanks were flooded with water and will have to be "dried" out before they can function again. That is tougher than meets the eye.
skidsteer85xt Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,667 Points:188,975 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 8:36:07 AM Ignore skidsteer85xt Report Abuse SAD BUT TRUE. THIS IS STILL THE US OF A ISN'T IT.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,953 Points:754,120 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:02:47 AM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse "sad that the US can't get power to these people any sooner. At least it's not weeks like w/ Katrina." ========================= It HAS been weeks. By the way, hurricanes like Katrina, Rita and Ike were vastly more powerful than Sandy. Just imagine how bad it would be if anther Cat 3 storm hit as on did in 1938.
medic6133 Champion Author New York Posts:1,120 Points:217,465 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 4:00:17 AM Ignore medic6133 Report Abuse I appreciate the various elements contributing to the situation, but I can't understand why the stations that have fuel in their storage tanks haven't made a mad rush for generators to get the gas out. Surely with the crunch still on any cost to invest in a generator would be compensated for the increase in price they'd be able to levy based on competition and relative scarcity.
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,448 Points:1,326,225 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 3:43:13 PM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse It's not as simple as you think. Lot of those stations are flooded. I mean flooded. Water in their gas tanks. Has to be dealt with and it takes time and time is something we don't allow in our instant gratification society. Everybody settle down.
pilotmass Champion Author Boston Posts:1,836 Points:504,560 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 3:37:01 PM Ignore pilotmass Report Abuse Question is, has NYC learned from the experience?
jamtexFL Rookie Author Miami Posts:6 Points:700 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 4:42:53 PM Ignore jamtexFL Report Abuse Glad its not happening here in Florida.
stealthvan Sophomore Author Seattle Posts:153 Points:267,760 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Nov 15, 2012 11:06:43 PM Ignore stealthvan Report Abuse That was really thoughtful of gasbuddy to put together a gas availability tracker for the victims of Sandy. Time to get fuel trucks headed east!
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2012 4:39:18 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse sad that the US can't get power to these people any sooner. At least it's not weeks like w/ Katrina.
CapriceWagon All-Star Author Washington Posts:949 Points:481,020 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:17:30 PM Ignore CapriceWagon Report Abuse I wonder how much Sandy helped Obama, and a lot of those people are still without power
Sego Veteran Author Florida Posts:387 Points:70,510 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 12:21:22 PM Ignore Sego Report Abuse tough situation. reminds me of 1973
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,643 Points:1,611,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Nov 13, 2012 4:49:06 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse as long as gas stations are not required to have backup generators, we will see this again and again.
truvoice1 Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,288 Points:475,890 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 11:53:49 PM Ignore truvoice1 Report Abuse I hope the oil companies don't use this as their latest excuse to raise prices again.
Catfish93001 Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,200 Points:247,955 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 2:28:51 PM Ignore Catfish93001 Report Abuse This isn't getting better very quickly, is it? The google gas map of the area is ugly.
DSL987 Rookie Author San Antonio Posts:7 Points:265 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 11:05:29 AM Ignore DSL987 Report Abuse This is easy to solve for the future, and other hurricane prone areas should take note. Large gas stations, say with over 6 islands will be deemed "critical infrastructure" and willbe mandated to have onsite generators. Some of the expense can be offset with tax rebates/credits. Same with terminal distribution centers, these will aslo be mandated as critical infrastructure and will either need to have onsite generation or the ability to gravity load (ie: no power) 18 wheelers directly from storage tanks, as all you need is a 2" truck connetion from the tank to the truck. These problems are not hard to overcome, it just needs a bit of thiking ahead, and the Gulf Coast should start planning now.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,069 Points:2,347,460 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 10:40:40 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Gasoline situation in NYC shocking, still a problem and what can happen next? The federal government, NY, NYC and NJ knew this strong storm was coming. With tropical storms and hurricanes, the southern states have more experience with them then anybody else. Gain knowledge about what to look out for, what to have ready and what do by asking those states. This same thing will happen in this area again, just do not know when. The electrical power with come on, given enough time, but NYC and the surrounding areas is large and it will take time to get it back ON. Make Big Oil deliver more fuel to the affected areas (NYC, NJ, etc.) and stop selling it on the world market for higher profits. There is a real need for fuel now! This oil and fuel belongs to the US and NOT only for Big Oil! Everyone affected needs to realize that the government is there to assist you, not to make it all warm and fuzzy. Do what is required to make 'your' situation better. Just another cog in the wheel to bring down the US by whatever means available. This is the makings of a TV disaster movie starring 'BH0.'
spiderjay Champion Author Little Rock Posts:4,773 Points:1,282,235 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 10:01:12 AM Ignore spiderjay Report Abuse old old
40mpgsaturn Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:2,500 Points:522,380 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:52:51 AM Ignore 40mpgsaturn Report Abuse Still a mess!
Wizrd03 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,162 Points:1,634,285 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:35:49 AM Ignore Wizrd03 Report Abuse Apparently there isn't any new news
Donatelo Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,127 Points:294,405 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:28:33 AM Ignore Donatelo Report Abuse ok
mattymattmatt All-Star Author Scranton Posts:890 Points:366,110 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:25:40 AM Ignore mattymattmatt Report Abuse Don't worry though. The Red Cross said that their efforts have been near flawless, so in reality, it's actually all good. These are just extreme situations no one wants to hear about.
acvw74 Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,110 Points:690,925 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:23:31 AM Ignore acvw74 Report Abuse I am suprised Big Oil isn't taking advantage of this.
CPayZombie Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,079 Points:1,657,565 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:20:48 AM Ignore CPayZombie Report Abuse Relief would be there if the general election had ended differently.
bigLtowing Champion Author Columbus Posts:2,849 Points:594,515 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:20:33 AM Ignore bigLtowing Report Abuse ok
daquanabe Champion Author Houston Posts:1,828 Points:375,850 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:19:54 AM Ignore daquanabe Report Abuse wildddkattt80, you've obviously never encountered such a major storm.
TBRR Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:3,672 Points:599,320 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:19:00 AM Ignore TBRR Report Abuse now three days old. PUSH WORK ETHIC, NOT REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH
TAT36 Champion Author Florida Posts:6,814 Points:1,305,950 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Nov 12, 2012 9:17:51 AM Ignore TAT36 Report Abuse Like Katrina where is "W"? Has to be his fault.