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Turbochargers helping car manufacturers raise fuel efficiency

GasBuddy Blog -- Car manufacturers are looking for any help they can get as they race to meet new fuel efficiency standards in the decade ahead, and they're being helped by technology that's been around for a while- turbochargers.

According to turbo manufacturer Honeywell, a major source of vehicle and truck turbochargers, the number of passenger vehicles equipped with a turbo is expected to climb 80% globally in the next five years. The boost in the use of turbos is expected to increase fuel economy in vehicles and reduce greenhouse gas emissions, according to Honeywell projections.

In 2011, vehicles equipped with turbos represented almost 25% of new car sales globally, amounting to nearly 20 million vehicles. The numbers will likely rise...


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WanderDan
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Message Posted: May 10, 2013 9:36:06 AM

turbos rock...
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driveonby1
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Message Posted: May 9, 2013 9:40:23 AM

Good for them.
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heydano67
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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 11:53:27 PM

works for my diesel
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priver
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Message Posted: May 6, 2013 7:31:05 PM

ok..
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 5:57:25 PM

like my turbo just not the fact it has to run on premium
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BBF_PFS
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 11:20:18 AM

Adding more cost to your vehicle which will mean you will have to drive your car for an extra 100000 miles to recoup the cost.
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priver
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 8:25:51 AM

seems only way to acheive more fuel economy, add turbos... simple
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Donatelo
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 8:16:22 AM

I had a 87 ford thunderbird turbo-coupe with a 2.3 4 cyl turbo that got 25 mpg on the highway, and was in the top 10 fastest production cars that year. turbos are great for gas mileage and hp.
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smugutu1234
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 7:19:47 AM

Never had a turbo
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Tommyguns45
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 7:54:21 AM

It makes sense the more air a car gets the better it burns the gas. They should been on all cars after the 70's oil crunch. Least the people with semis has the turbo that gets better mileage.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 5:38:25 PM

no probs with my turbo and there really is no argument against them
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CapriceWagon
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 7:20:59 PM

My brother-in-law had a 2003 Saab 9-3 wagon with a turbo, a seal in the turbo blew and the turbo sucked all the oil out of his engine and dumped it into the exhaust. One of my friends has a gas turbo VW Beetle, the turbo went and took the engine with it. Turbos aren't cheap, and when they break the damage they cause to other components isn't cheap either, but thanks for your opinions DeserTBob.

BTW, it's an '88 wagon with an MPFI LT1, it's not your grandpa's Caprice.
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skidsteer85xt
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2012 8:31:29 PM

i would like to see cars get 50 or more miles a gallon.
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 12:44:18 PM

"loved my old 87' thunderbird turbo-coupe, 2.3 4cyl turbo, got over 20 mpg on the highway, and was in top ten fastest production cars that year, it was quick. " ---Donatelo

I had one of those, and an '84 Mustange SVO turbo...both were VERY fast. My Turbo Coupe got a lot better than 20 MPG on the highway...24 being normal. My '62 Olds Turbo Jetfire got a lot better mileage, though...up to 27...and was more powerful. That's why Standard Oil wanted GM to quit using turbos in the 1960s...they caused too much efficiency at time when Standard wanted 8 MPG cars to sell more gasoline. That's the truth, too...from a now-gone Olds engineering manager from Lansing. Standard's favorite GM car? The '58 Buick Super with Triple Turbine Dynaflow...8 MPG on the road. The general manager of Buick Division, asking why the Buick got 8 MPG on the '58 Mobil Economy Run, replied, "Well...we have to keep the oil companies happy, you know." Those words would come back to haunt GM (and retired GM chairman Al Sloan) a decade later.
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DeserTBoB
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 12:35:36 PM

Turbochargers have been around since the 1920s, invented by Dr. Alfred B├╝chi working for Sulzer on improving their line of diesels. American LoComotive Co. in the US was probably the pioneering mass producer of turbosupercharged diesels in the US, starting in the '30s. My first turbocharged automobile? A '62 Olds Jetfire, the top-line F-85. 215 BHP out of a modified 215 cu " Buick aluminum V8. However, Olds screwed up the engineering...compression ratio too high (10.5:1 WITHOUT the turbo!) and had to use vapor injection to prevent piston destruction due to knock. It would go like a raped ape, though, even with the lousy Slim Jim transmission. Olds would tell you that you needed to buy their own "Jet Injection Fluid" from the dealer. I used cheap vodka and distilled water...it was the same thing! The water would Cool the inComing air charge in lieu of an aftercooler, while the alCohol provided increased octane. The car would also get 27 MPG on the highway, thanks to the Slim Jim being mechanically Coupled in high gear. Too bad the oil Companies (notably Standard of California) HATED this car, and demanded that GM remove the Jetfire and the Corvair Turbo Monza from production...they were too efficient.
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DeserTBoB
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 12:23:12 PM

"I might get a car with a supercharger" ---clpassinuby

Don't. Straight superchargers add drag and get their energy from the crankshaft. They raise volumetric efficiency, but do it all the time. Turbosuperchargers only provide boost when the engine is under load, using otherwise wasted energy afforded by expanding exhaust gases. GM tried reviving the supercharger a few years back on the 3.5 Buick V6...power went up, sure...but mileage went DOWN.
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DeserTBoB
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 12:20:17 PM

Once again, "CrapiceWagon" shows his dumbness. There's nothing really more simple than a turbosupercharger...exhaust blows the turbine, which allows the compressor to squeeze in more air. More air, higher volumetric efficiency. Duh. Of course, he drive a 1978 Chevy...what would he know?
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CapriceWagon
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 8:45:56 AM

We'll see how reliable they turn out to be, usually the simplest design is the best in that regard. Turbos add a lot of complexity
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 10:44:46 PM

Great!
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CapriceWagon
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 8:22:17 AM

They also raise the price and complexity of the vehicle, but let's not talk about that.
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clpassenubye
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:48:19 PM

I might get a car with a supercharger
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GasHunter0007
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 7:58:15 PM

Interesting
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CapriceWagon
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 1:21:46 PM

Turbos are fun until they blow a gasket and suck all the oil out of your engine and put it in your exhaust pipe. Ask me how I know, and ask how long it takes to burn all that oil out of your catalytic converter.
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Gas4Gore
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:18:15 PM

perhaps that would be good.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:00:03 AM

pilot: turbos aren't that expensive. They've only been in expensive cars before b/c no one thought of putting them into cheaper vehicles.
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pilotmass
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 2:00:22 PM

Turbos are expensive, but the cost is coming down.
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73amx
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 10:32:50 AM

think it's a great idea. turbo's should be used more widely, but how does their use affect car prices?
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 4:49:59 AM

swap: turbos or just the cars? Turbos: yes, been around many years.
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 10:37:32 AM

I hope they have a proven, reliable track record. If so, great.
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 4:46:05 AM

turbos are good... while they work.
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shstew
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 5:54:26 PM

I love turbos
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2012 7:10:17 AM

I think the reason smaller cars don't have turbos is that most ppl shun the 4-banger image and want a "bigger engine" (read: boost ego and self-esteem) rather than more horsepower and better efficiency.
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Message Posted: Oct 6, 2012 12:56:00 AM

All 3 of my vehicles have turbos. 2 Dodge Ram 3500 Cummins diesels and an SRT4 Neon 30+ mpg and 245 hp 4 cylinder. Turbos are where its at and I've wondered why more cars don't have them. It's basically free hp
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Message Posted: Oct 5, 2012 3:06:04 PM

good
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darraghON
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 8:28:58 AM

We've been using them in Europe for years and years, I had one on a Audi A6, big car, got 37 US mpg/ 6.4 l/100Km on highway & city use, my little aspirated Toyota does not get this good!
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 1:14:28 PM

I had a ford t-bird turbo coupe with a four banger and turbo. it had plenty of power and got great gas milege. i wondered why more car makers don't go that way to get better milage without losing good horse power.
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clpassenubye
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 12:37:55 PM

great
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 8:26:46 AM

How did it take the US so long to realize this?

Oh yeah, as a nation we complain about gas prices, but don't actually change anything.

[Edited by: DucatiRider at 10/3/2012 9:27:21 AM EST]
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DucatiRider
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 8:26:34 AM

Once again America leads from behind in making obvious decisions to increase performance and efficiency.
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 7:36:37 AM

Our Chevy Sonic is turbocharged and it really makes a difference, better gas mileage and more power when needed in a smaller engine than its larger non-turbo engine counterpart.
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RotorRider
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 12:21:57 PM

My first turbo was a Porsche in the late 70's. Have had many since. Love the idea of turbos. Plenty of power from a small engine when you need it, good fuel efficiency from the small engine when you're not on the boost.

Too bad more cars weren't turbos. We'd save a little fuel and maybe have a little more fun driving....
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 7:28:18 AM

Will it work or is this a gimmick?
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:27:34 AM

ok
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THERE ARE NO GREENHOUSE GASES, PEOPLE!
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 2:05:30 PM

Yes, almost all turbocharged and supercharged engines require premium fuel.
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Gas is ridicc
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K
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:39:50 AM

Bought my first Turbcharged car in 1978...time to catch up Detroit!
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:21:08 AM

Another old article............
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19sheldon43
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:20:41 AM

Just another excuse to over charge for their vehs. To reach that 25% they
had to go "globally" could have been 50% if they went around the glob
twice. I think their figuring is fuzzy
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