Dennisjk

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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2013 6:58:12 PM
This isn't developing very fast.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 7:02:09 AM
good for Germany where energy innovation has always been big.
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HawaiianGuy

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Idaho
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 10:17:00 AM
More practical for European countries that don't have the massive travel expanses of the U.S..
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otherdave

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 5:55:15 AM
Good for Germany.
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millerin

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 5:25:34 AM
nice
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SkooterG

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 12:05:12 AM
Interesting. Germans are good at innovating. Don't see this as a major player at all however.
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:16:06 PM
Will it be cost effective to produce synthetic natural gas from hydrogen fuel and CO2?
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OGW

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London
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:14:09 PM
They can have it! Natural gas is a poor fuel for running vehicles.
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:09:51 PM
Interesting that they are gonna produce natural gas. Does not sound very natural to me.
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Buffalo Joe

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:07:35 PM
Will it be successful?
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Doomsday64

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Austin
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:06:51 PM
cool
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cheapertvs

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:06:33 PM
What will the stuff cost and what other maintenance costs will exist on this type of vehicle that uses this fuel?
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UpSol7

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Augusta
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:06:26 PM
Enjoy your holiday travel
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FusionCa

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:03:37 PM
Sounds Good.
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NHLiveFree

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:03:30 PM
Just more childish nonsense, nastiness, and name calling from clermont... Aviator Rob.
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TheSicilian

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:02:43 PM
good luck with this one
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cheaper0ON

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:02:13 PM
Interesting.
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Beaveronparade

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 11:00:28 PM
Interesting article!
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NHLiveFree

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:59:12 PM
If you had bothered to read the above Nemo, it is being done in Germany! Please take the time to read first and spout later.
It is because, unlike fossil fuels, hydrogen is an abundant and renewable form of energy. The NG will not last more than this century.
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Rednix

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:57:42 PM
Good stuff.
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Aviator_Rob

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:56:24 PM
The technology is interesting but the problem of where to get the hydrogen still remains. It's too energy intensive to get it from water. Makes more sense to just use that electricity to charge electric vehicles.
The most cost effective way is to reform natural gas but it might be more cost effective to just run a regular internal combustion engine off of CNG.
Plus, hydrogen has the same problem as CNG when it comes to storing it in pressurized fuel tanks but hydrogen requires even greater pressure than CNG.
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NemoIL

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:53:09 PM
"New facility will generate synthetic natural gas from hydrogen fuel and CO2" it is extremely expensive to do this, and why, when the U.S. is sitting on an ocean of natural gas?
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SparkieMi

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:52:59 PM
Good for them... We will see how this works out...
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:52:09 PM
Big deal.
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unemployed58

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:51:02 PM
kind of late
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:50:36 PM
Once again, @clermont40miles, is the King of Denial, and not of that river in Egypt.
You really don't think that people are capable of trashing the planet, do you?
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bvrbill

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:49:38 PM
Let them pay the R & D in Europe. If it becomes cost effecive we can begin production here.
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slowpoke63

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:49:33 PM
Good
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:47:12 PM
Why would they want to produce synthetic natural gas? An internal combustion engine can just as easily burn hydrogen in the engine as burn CNG.
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Trowinsamoan

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:47:10 PM
Good for them the U S should have done this years ago
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Cruiser340

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:45:37 PM
They need to keep costs to us down or it'll flop just like the electric cars.
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Mr_Bill_W

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:32:33 PM
Interesting... Have to wonder if this foreshadows development on this side of the Atlantic as well?
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mstearno

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:32:11 PM
way ahead of gm
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BREW9

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:30:26 PM
ok
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Dragnet

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:29:38 PM
Don't care about Audi nor do I care about hydrogen or natural gas. I produce enough of it after eating potatoe salad and chili
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whaboush

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:29:15 PM
Almost time for an Audi A4, huh!?
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yonasb

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Houston
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:27:33 PM
Cool
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DrCashFlow

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:27:17 PM
Better there than here
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Jeeputtputt

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:25:56 PM
audi's are too expensive.
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scubadaniel

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:23:08 PM
If they can make this Hydrogen car working, that would be cool.
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GigHarborHound

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:22:46 PM
No subsidies!!!
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hcivic

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:22:06 PM
very interesting.....next few years we can pick what kind of fuel to use
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PrepHermit

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:20:53 PM
All this money being spent to develop expensive niche cars.
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regout

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:19:08 PM
Oh what a future...
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Gas4Gore

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:13:46 PM
Oh WOW.
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1fulltank

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:12:52 PM
Onward into the future.
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BoerneWatch

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:10:27 PM
Another expensive experiment and I am happy to hear it is in Germany and not here.
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FlyNFool

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:09:17 PM
Just like in WWII
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KhelbenArunson

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:08:59 PM
Great.
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drz614

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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:03:54 PM
cool
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