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Boeing 787 Batteries Same As Those In Electric Cars? Umm, NO

Greencarreports -- Gird yourself: It's possible we're about to see a new wave of attacks on electric cars that ignore battery science.

This time the culprit is the troubled Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft. The FAA has grounded all 787s after a string of fires in their lithium-ion battery packs; other countries have done the same.

Which has led at least one supposedly authoritative commentator to say that Boeing is having the same battery problems as those "that have shown up in electric cars."

The problem is that the two types of batteries are, in fact, quite different.

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Submitted Jan 19, 2013 By: BennoBlue

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SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:329,335 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 11:46:11 AM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse What an idiot from St. Louis University.
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,763 Points:592,720 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 10:24:57 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Gas and oil are not going to give up their monopoly on energy easily.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,423 Points:2,717,645 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 10:05:58 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Boeing is still a good investment.
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gs7101 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,528 Points:388,895 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 7:34:56 AM Ignore gs7101 Report Abuse Don't believe the hype!
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CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,013 Points:214,980 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:42:38 PM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse It is a note worthy article. Problem is we are being worried to death with every and anything. : (
Lairre Champion Author Sacramento Posts:3,055 Points:189,110 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:41:29 PM Ignore Lairre Report Abuse The 787 and problems seem to go hand-in-hand.
NAVYHM All-Star Author Cleveland Posts:761 Points:1,387,205 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:40:07 PM Ignore NAVYHM Report Abuse YOU ALL ARE MISINFORMED AGAIN... BOEING'S LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES ALONE ARE NOT THE PROBLEM... THE CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT... HEATING/COOLING SYSTEMS... THE INITIALIZATION TRANSFERS & BYPASSES... SIZE/STORAGE/WIRING HARNESSES... SWITCHING FIRE DAMPERS... I COULD LIST THESE ALL NIGHT... AND THEY ARE 10 TIMES SMARTER THAN I AM... EACH & EVERY SYSTEM THE 787 HAS, IS A PROVEN PRODUCT... IN THEORY ALONE, THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT... BUT, THE LAWS OF AERO-SPACE ENGINEERING DON'T ALLOW FOR THE UNEXPLAINED... BOEING IS THE BEST PASSENGER AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURING COMPANY IN THE WORLD... TOP TOO BOTTOM...
pa79th Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,792 Points:1,218,050 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:33:29 PM Ignore pa79th Report Abuse What does this have to do with the price of gasoline?
a14morfun Champion Author Ontario Posts:11,812 Points:2,078,190 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:31:44 PM Ignore a14morfun Report Abuse Too bad those planes have to be grounded. I hope they get the problem fixed quickly.
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boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,728 Points:389,925 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:30:21 PM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse Sounds like the battery people need to fix the problem.
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,491 Points:2,103,965 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:30:15 PM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse Not sure I want to travel in a Boeing 787.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,267 Points:2,255,970 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:29:18 PM Ignore 10k Report Abuse one huge difference: boeing has been, and will be, here to stay-EV's are just a waste of my tax dollars, and will be history in 10 years or less..
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rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,478 Points:664,150 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:26:28 PM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse The 787 has been plagued with problems for years, so what't else is new?
pyndasky Champion Author Maryland Posts:10,010 Points:1,783,755 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:26:24 PM Ignore pyndasky Report Abuse aren't Li ion batteries in most cellphones too?
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walkerms1 All-Star Author Albany Posts:960 Points:159,900 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:23:36 PM Ignore walkerms1 Report Abuse Batteries are dangerous! Diesel is the answer.
naspa Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,276 Points:353,125 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:22:01 PM Ignore naspa Report Abuse They are the same batteries! The only difference is the casing.
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GasholeMI Champion Author Lansing Posts:10,149 Points:1,719,790 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:19:21 PM Ignore GasholeMI Report Abuse I disagree. I think they are actually quite similar--neither one seems to work as it is supposed to work.
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Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,525 Points:1,670,560 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:16:40 PM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse I hope they get this problem solved quickly.
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bby Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,729 Points:1,023,645 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Jan 19, 2013 11:16:21 PM Ignore bby Report Abuse Li ion batteries are very efficient, but they need to be tested thoroughly.
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