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Bus Driver Worked At Least 90 Hours Without Relief

Seattle Times -- Two survivors of an Eastern Oregon tour bus crash that killed nine passengers allege in a lawsuit that the driver was tired, didn't heed warnings and was going too fast on a road with patches of snow and ice.

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Submitted Jan 08, 2013 By: erikk77
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:00:20 AM

gs: driver probably did what he was told to keep a job that's not paying a lot. Company boss(es) need to be getting a kick in the tail so hard they land in the slammer.
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gs7101
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 6:04:14 AM

The bus driver should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 11:02:15 PM

the disregard for the paying passengers on the part of the company is appalling. Hopefully some crackdown on this type of slavery (bus drivers as modern wage slaves) will happen soon. Not the first deadly bus crash. Sadly, won't be the last one either.
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gs7101
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 6:11:36 AM

Absolutely insane actions by the bus driver; completely disregard for passengers' safety!
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dave27johnson
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 1:03:54 AM

The company's fault.
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obimerrill
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 12:06:34 AM

Sad...and it could have been prevented, but both the company and driver were feeling pressured by our economy. Fix Washington politics!
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crreed1
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:31:51 PM

trucks here so many hrs you can drive
cross country 4 hrs on & 4 hrs off
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Number43
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:18:56 PM

When I drove a cab, our company would tell us in no certain terms to go home. This was on a daily basis. Our hours were watched carefully to meet Government regulations. This driver might have been pressured into driving or whatever but the company will pay, one way or another.
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GAS1251
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:15:10 PM

This relates to "you want to be in the bigger vehicle in a crash" article.
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naspa
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:13:58 PM

How does this article relate to gas?
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Mowerman08
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:12:50 PM

I guess I have seen that, the relief driver drives a car to the change point, having started at the same time the bus left.

But they are only driving the bus the regulated hours.
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Number43
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:12:35 PM

I blame the company.
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rahcat
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:12:16 PM

I hope the bus company has great insurance or deep pockets.
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tedjm1
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:11:44 PM

In most cases, the company forces drivers to work a lot extra. However, there are some drivers who do these many extra hours to make more money. TBoth these ituations should be stopped. Should be enough staff on hand to do the job.
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rsox67
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:11:43 PM

A sad story
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10k
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:11:19 PM

some people have jobs where they can get away with 60 hrs/week, others need a definite 40-48 hour limit..

[Edited by: 10k at 1/9/2013 12:13:54 AM EST]
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LCSTEELERBOB
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:11:15 PM

how dump can this person bee????????
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CarefreeVT
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:10:58 PM

I blame Bush... Wait, Society and our work week, no wait that guy over there, no wait the economy and the need for as much money as you can get at the present juncture?

Old News. Personal responsibility and accountability?
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regout
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:09:07 PM

They should drive only 8 hours.
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scrounger
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:08:24 PM

owners taking advantage of short staffing and underpaid drivers in order to pad their own pockets
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mpg611
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:06:01 PM

This bus company has as much sense of Romney, Obama and GW Bush combined.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:05:14 PM

Who is in charge of that operation?
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skysteve1
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:05:06 PM

Bus company to blame
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:04:50 PM

That's the norm for many in the transportation business these days. Cab drivers are expected to work 72 hours, or more a week. Of course their pay doesn't reflect the hours worked.
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FrankTA2
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:04:40 PM

Need to put speed limiters on the bus.
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cheaper0ON
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:01:52 PM

WoW.
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JamesCalvin
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:01:37 PM

Sounds tiring!
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Jmac2008
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:00:54 PM

they should levee a big fine on the bus company.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:57:05 PM

Tri met in Oregon is in same boat, some working 22hrs. no good
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:56:26 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:53:37 PM

Unbelievable
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:51:21 PM

That is horrible.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:47:48 PM

terrible
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:47:12 PM

Wow
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:46:48 PM

90 hrs in 8 days in not excessive that is 11.25 hrs per day I know many people that work 12 hr days weneed to wait for the facts to be weighed on excessive speed & road conditons.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:42:15 PM

Just another excuse to raise gas prices.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:38:29 PM

Guy must of been peeing coffee.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:37:44 PM

I think the company should be sued as well.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:37:21 PM

I have worked more hours than that sense the January 2 till now about 105 hours and have at least 30 more days like this ahead.
Working 12 hours a day and caring for my livestock another 3 hours a day.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:32:49 PM

I thought drivers were not to go more than 8-10 hrs w/o a break?
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:31:49 PM

Hmmm.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:31:25 PM

This is a good article to keep in mind while shopping for the cheapest tour you can find.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:31:16 PM

The hours worked don't seem that excessive - and I doubt illegal for a professional driver. Whether he was driving appropriately for the conditions is another matter, likely to be argued by accident reconstruction experts, although the bus may have had some gps logging too that would shed a lot of light on speed, if not conditions.

[Edited by: rx7racerca at 1/8/2013 11:33:38 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:28:31 PM

Glad 38 folks survived. Nine did not.

Ambulance chasing lawyers found two that are lining their pockets.

"...the bus driver doubled as a tour guide and worked at least 90 hours without relief over the first eight days..."

I don't know what regulations are, but that does not mean the man was sleepy or working too long. That is an avg of 11.25 per day. Depends on how that was spread out and many other factors we don't know.

Going too fast on slippery roads may have been the thing that he could not handle.

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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:25:29 PM

many drivers fall into that category on the road...
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:24:54 PM

These companies need to use common sense.
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:24:14 PM

Stupidity costs lives
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:24:05 PM

The driver obviously has the most culpability. Did the company try to prevent these violations?
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:22:06 PM

Not good.
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Carol7777
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:21:39 PM

Obviously, there are regulation already un place, so it is definitely the responsibilty of the tour company that their drivers & guides adhere to them. Good luck to the survivors with their lawsuit. I'm assuming the driver is also being held criminally liable.
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