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Cameras are budget boon

Tampa Bay Online -- The city of Tampa has almost 2.3 million reasons to like red light cameras.

The photo-based system of ticketing traffic violators still generates plenty of controversy, and a bevy of mixed court decisions, but while the public debate simmers, the cameras are flashing at a dizzying pace. The automated system racks up traffic scofflaws at rates far higher than police ever could.

The numbers are adding up for cash-starved local governments.

"I'm surprised how much revenue we brought in," Tampa City Councilman Mike Suarez said of the $2.26 million the city has pulled in since November from red light camera violations at 24 intersections.

"I've also been told the Tampa Police Department has seen a reduction in crashes at intersections with red light cameras. Yes, we are making a little bit


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2012 5:20:42 AM

FL is still not fully okay with it in some areas.
OHMS
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 4:59:32 AM

nor legal in CA
honda0105
Champion Author Tallahassee

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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2012 4:58:01 AM

many hear have said that for a long time. Red Light Cameras = Cash Cows.
GatorGuy
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 1:07:08 PM

Thank you, big brother for keeping me safe. Whatever the cost.
hauler43
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 12:39:28 PM

Drive correctly
sparky808
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 12:19:17 PM

Thank you for posting.
allezrider
Sophomore Author Massachusetts

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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 7:31:17 AM

The perception that I get is that people would rather bitch about the cameras than follow the rules of the road.

Doesn't surprise me. I say keep the cameras.
tidalwave3
Champion Author Tallahassee

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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 5:35:57 AM

tomok: You are so naive.. Red Light cameras are part of Agenda 21 and promote you are "Guilty until proven innocent" concept. And yes the lights have been altered with yellow light timing and other defects. Red Light Cameras must GO, they are more defective that working and all to RAISE REVENUE for the local Government :(
Right on "defianceman" you know it andf New Orleans and Houston voters did vote to stop REd Light Cameras :)
tomok
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 3:08:27 AM

Obey the traffic laws and red light cameras are not a problem. Drive over the speed limit, run red lights and cameras will record your offenses. Expect to pay the local government for your mistakes.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, has a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
defiancegasman
Champion Author Ohio

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 11:58:18 PM

Not the whole story. MOST CITIES that put in the red light cameras will SHORTEN THE YELLOW LIGHTS to GENERATE MORE ILLEGAL TICKETS. It is a TAX INCREASE on the WORKERS, since the TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH have reduced the total taxes paid, they have to make it up somehow!!
DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:59:45 PM

trying to balance the budget, eh
MDTDriver
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:57:33 PM

Stay out of Tampa.
DandyDapple
All-Star Author North Dakota

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:55:58 PM

9 out 10 are defective ... what a joke ...
Saunch2012
Veteran Author Pennsylvania

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:54:43 PM

ok
jferrara41
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:53:02 PM

Big Brother, here we go
Tekkersmom57
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:50:51 PM

I guess if it makes the intersection safer it is worth it.
VernonOR
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:44:27 PM

Great, the only way to stop traffic violators is to hit them in the pocket book. The higher the price of a ticket combined with higher auto insurance help stop repeat offenders.
J4romeo
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:42:55 PM

another two way attack on tax payers pockets...1st having the cameras installed n 2nd if u are one of the unlucky ones that get caught by the camera with a ticket in the mail..:(
Focus2
Champion Author Illinois

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:41:50 PM

My niece got a ticket mailed to her that her son got by a red light. She paid it not knowing she didn't have too, as she was not the driver and was home.
Blue48
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:41:08 PM

EASY $!
mdskier
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:39:10 PM

Here Beltway Bandits install them for free at no cost to county/cities.
The Bandits get to keep 40 to 50% of the money collected.

What A Scam!

Scufflaws are mostly those awful soccer moms in a rush to get
their johnnys to school on time!

MaxCO2
All-Star Author Washington

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:37:47 PM

If you get one of these tickets, don't pay it.
They can't prove you were driving the car.
It's that simple if you've got the balls.
shadow_knows
Champion Author Toronto

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:36:40 PM

Easy to avoid that fine. Just stop for a red. It won't kill you.
mikaye
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:35:03 PM

more gouging
rbrk02
Champion Author Rhode Island

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:33:50 PM

Money grab. Red light cameras should be illegal.
WBBNC
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:32:47 PM

I am not surprised how much revenue they (cameras) brought in...
gavinON
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:32:28 PM

hmmm
bra0712
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:29:47 PM

K
greentre
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:28:24 PM

As long as they are set up correctly and aren't combined with short yellow lights, etc.
bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:24:45 PM

I hate red light cameras but they will not be banned if they are making money.
Bleeder
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:23:40 PM

Some towns have taken this too far. But then again, don't break the law and you will have nothing to worry about.
silverfoxv65
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:22:59 PM

Maybe they will have enough money to keep the cops they have now!
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:22:57 PM

in othere words, it is a good revenue source and that is it
FlogNut
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:20:52 PM

Money, money, money! It's all about more money so politicians can buy more votes!
Somis1
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:19:47 PM

How are they wasting this windfall?
Pramodsharma
Champion Author Richmond

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:18:33 PM

There looks to be a camera lobby
suzmar
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They are not about safety, they are about raising revenue.
WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:16:18 PM

Cameras are very dangerous. THere are more collisions now thna before the cameras. Get rid of them NOW!
wayoung56
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:16:05 PM

definitely an easy $$$$$$ cash $$$$$$$ flow generator for cities once their initial investment for the equipment is recovered
abacus44
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:14:37 PM

They are being banned in many towns and states, as well they should be.
regasaz
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:11:27 PM

It is more of a revenue generator than a safety issue for these cities.
blazerbob91
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:07:24 PM

They cause more problems than they are worth
tco9436
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:06:08 PM

Doesn't Help ME!
WebGabe
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:04:25 PM

Ripoff.
warlord1
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:04:10 PM

ok
jimedB
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:02:40 PM

But they always tell us here that they are not to generate revenue but to improve safety. In fact most of the cameras are being taken out due to the fact the contract to lease and operate them costs much more than the fines collected.
MahopacJack
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:02:21 PM

Were the cost of these cameras mentioned in the article? The upkeep? It seems the only thing the politicians are looking at is the revenue? Did I miss something? Politicians not looking at unintended consequences?
DustyHorse
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:01:53 PM

Red light cameras cause accidents. I was rear ended by a F-150 pickup after stopping for one of these lights. He hit me hard enough to break my seat and total my car. Fortunately I just got the wind knocked out of me.
John747
Champion Author Chicago

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:01:29 PM

This is all about getting more revenue for the cities.
sillywagon
Champion Author New York

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 10:00:17 PM

It's for public safety! Make sure the yellow light isn't too long. Now how do we waste... I mean blow... eh, spend all this revenue.
ratones1
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2012 9:54:59 PM

wow...
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