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Carmakers banking on traditional gasoline engines for near future

UPI -- Of all the new cars and concepts unveiled at the North American Auto Show in Detroit only a handful are all-electric or hybrids.

For all the "Green Car" promotion, it appears automakers have come to the conclusion the conventional internal combustion engine remains the industry's standard for the near future.

A study by the international tax, audit and advisory firm KPMG found while sales of electric vehicles hit a record last year, car company executives believe electrics won't account for more than 15 percent of total global new vehicle sales until at least 2025. That's when U.S. fuel economy standards will require vehicles to average 54.5 mph a gallon.

Manufacturers like Japan's Mazda are moving ahead with technologies like "SkyActiv," engineering out excess weight from vehicle ...


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 4:53:51 AM

there will be a mix for a while.
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bston
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 6:20:47 PM

Gasoline engines will probably be around for a long while.
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SycamoreISU
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 1:08:08 PM

Face it--there's no overwhelming demand for electric vehicles.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 7:30:48 AM

Wise.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 7:20:21 AM

No kidding?
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Wizrd03
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 5:33:59 AM

Until EV's compressed air or what ever can get 500 miles to the tank full, they will never be accepted. Hybrids that can still have the expensive battery issue as well as the extra $10,000 up front. Who wants that?
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hokieburgh
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 4:28:16 AM

they're my standard for the near future for sure.........
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mrjames1818
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 2:00:09 AM

They won't make a change until they have to - that's what got them into the mess they're in now
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:25:29 AM

......for
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:21:52 AM



And if we could get rid of ethanol, my Mazda3 SkyActive-G would get 44mpg instead of a measley 40mpg!
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PetroScopper
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:21:49 AM

There are plenty of people out there who will never change if they can help it. The automakers realize how uninformed people are and they will take advantage of that.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:21:27 AM

How traditional!
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:21:10 AM

Not surprised at all.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:19:49 AM

What ever people can afford to drive!
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:19:11 AM

Don't think that they made this assumption without data to back it up.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:16:18 AM

Yup, and I understand why.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:16:15 AM

No surprise here.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:15:51 AM

yes, say no to EV
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:13:31 AM


Gas-electric hybrid is working well for now.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:12:07 AM

we shall see. lets see how long the electric car lasted
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:11:23 AM

It's the market stupid
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Bill100
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:11:14 AM

I will not be a part of that market.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:09:48 AM

As they should.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:09:28 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:09:05 AM

I commented on this yesterday.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:07:19 AM

Okay
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:07:17 AM

What ever is the cheapest!
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:06:13 AM



. O K





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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:05:53 AM

Whatever works best . . . .
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Time will tell
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:04:24 AM

Too bad.
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:04:07 AM

Really?
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:02:58 AM

a lot more can be done with gas engines...
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 12:00:55 AM

More reason to go with CNG.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:58:49 PM



. O K





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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:57:57 PM

wake up & go diesel
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:57:27 PM

So am I.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:56:16 PM

near and present danger... no surprise here. Been banking on it hard for the past 20! Hard to change that which is resisted with power, money and corruption. A change of attitude would help on a lot of people and businesses hearts and minds.
I still believe if they researched biomass to biofuels starting as far back as when the Industrial Hemp Tax Stamp Act when through 75+ years ago, we might not be in this situation. Yes that particular fuel is troublesome in cold climates, but not in the south. The fiber in general is a renewable and recyclable source to replace most plastics. 75+ years behind in that research... Thanks Uncle Sam! I guess Government really does know best... NOT Oh and that 2025 deadline... If you have a car from 1995 UPKEEP it or convert the engine. Make the repairs yourself and get a kid in technical school...
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:55:05 PM

I'd love to be able to "gas" up my car at my house. I'd almost never have to gas up on the road again.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:54:25 PM

Big oil wants this.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:54:05 PM

I'll stick with the affordable, reliable traditional gas engine.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:53:24 PM

Green and Electric cars all belong on the golf courses not on the streets...
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:47:05 PM

Yep, too heavily...natural gas is the answer. Start building converted engines and tanks!
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:45:22 PM

Good idea, not like we can afford a electric car that will need a new power source in 3 years!
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:43:48 PM

Near future maybe, far future no.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:43:27 PM

Makes a lot of sense
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badharley
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:41:42 PM

Still keep buying gas vehicles.
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:37:08 PM

until they can deliver a mid-sized green product at a reasonable price, internal combustion engines will prevail
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:37:02 PM

Aviator Rob said: ""Heavier" doesn't make a car safer, either, @Lizzylou. Vehicle design is a much better indicator of safety than mere weight alone."

While that's true to some extent I would still rather be in my old Suburban than in the elegantly designed Mini Cooper when those two vehicles try to occupy the same space at the same time. Sometimes there's really no good substitute for an extra half ton or so...
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Message Posted: Jan 27, 2013 11:35:55 PM

economical in the short run to continue refining incrementally the well known technology
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