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Drought and the Second Ethanol Crash

OilPrice.com -- When gas prices plummeted during the recession and at least half of US ethanol producers went bankrupt in the 2008-2009 ethanol crash, ethanol production continued to increase. But ethanol will crash again in the face of a summer drought, and this time the crash will be more definitive.

The difference this time around is that the ethanol will not crash because of product value, but because of under-supply of feedstock, like corn.


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Submitted Aug 16, 2012 By: NOTSOGRN
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Night Owl
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:23:02 PM

Just get rid of that ethanol crap.
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Stupid Dubya.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:19:48 PM

In a real free market, products must stand on their own or fail - ethanol in gasoline is a BIG fail - but Uncle Sam makes it a winner at our expense.

Give me E0.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:25:29 AM

Just ban ethanol.

Why add something to gas that decreases mileage, and then mandate higher mpg from the manufacturers?
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leraar2
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:13:53 AM

wonderful news.

bring back PURE gasoline.
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NukeAtComEd
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 9:53:33 AM

LOL - where else can a company stop production when it has a guarenteed market and with the price of gasoline going up, the corn prices going up and the amount of support given by the Feds and States, the compnay can't charge enough - Did the original GM/Chrysler executives start running this company?
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 8:40:58 AM

End the ethanol program now.
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C A U T I O N: WHA educated civil servants at work.
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There's no magic bullet. Whatever the government does, there will be pain.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:56:31 AM

Corn should be used for food not fuel.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:53:48 AM

Ethanol has too many negatives to justify its use as a fuel.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:41:15 AM

it just needs to go
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:36:12 AM

Put ethanol out of business.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:22:57 AM

so ?
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:16:52 AM

The problem is Congress is so gridlocked in playing its game of partisan politics, that nothing will get done. Then you will have each party blaming the other, and one party using it as a wedge-issue for against the White House that can't really do anything.

What *should* happen, is to establish a review system where the requirements can be waived anytime crop production levels drop below some predetermined level - similar to what Brazil does for its sugar cane ethanol industry.

This is on Congress' shoulders.

Then there is the problem with massive grain purchases by China of corn, wheat, and soybeans - as that is what has been driving crop commodity prices as a result of speculators moving into this sector of commodities trading...

[Edited by: Martinman at 8/16/2012 8:20:29 AM EST]
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@goldseeker re:"A lot of fiction in this article."Defend that declaration with some facts.
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Sparky19038
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 7:10:30 AM

[Rant Mode On]

Especially during a drought, when prices increase due to crop failures decreasing available supply, WE SHOULD NOT BE BURNING FOOD IN CAR ENGINES.

[Rant Mode Off]
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Ethanol is the last thing this country needs.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 5:52:26 AM

"but because of under-supply of feedstock, like corn"

"Feedstock" is food not fuel!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 5:49:32 AM

let's put the bastards out of business and get rid of ethanol.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 5:31:18 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 5:24:53 AM

I agree with 'George0446': "Stop the ethanol subsidies and mandates. The EPA is an out of control agency. Cut their funding."
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Crash and burn.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 4:09:53 AM

Stop the ethanol subsidies and mandates. The EPA is an out of control agency. Cut their funding.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 4:09:20 AM

What fiction? Great review of basic issues. Now why do I have very little confidence that anything rational will get done in a timely manner?
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No more ethanol
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Stop forcing ethanol use in gas.
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science friction
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 2:14:44 AM

At what point in the chain do they add the ethanol? In the big storage tanks at the refinery. When filling the trucks that hall the stuff. Or when the tuck dumps it's load at the stations. Well whenever they add the ethanol. Now they won't have to.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:48:33 AM

A lot of fiction in this article.
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Kill ethanol produced from corn!
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get rid of ethanol
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:35:55 AM

I will be sorry to see any business not do well. But, this one needs to go away because of changes in regulations. Don't take food off my table to run a car!
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Corn chowder's not meant for gas tanks.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:31:51 AM

Alas it cannot all come from corn, now we should see that. The corn lobbyists and congress got us into this mess, time to diversify to other products for ethanol, like potatoes and sugar cane.
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Do away with Ethanol.
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Stop burning fuel.
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Corn is eaten and makes good drink not fuel
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Corn belongs as FOOD!!!!!!!
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dump ethanol and dumbo and the puppet masters.....
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Subsidized industries need to shet their pants, stat.
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Time to dump ethanol
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Always sumptin
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.
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restructure out put
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Ok
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You can't controll Mother Nature
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Time to repeal the Renewable Fuel Standard Act!
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Make ethanol with something other than a basic food source!
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hopefully it will cause it to be gone
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