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EPA Pressured to Drop Ethanol in Gas Requirement

Fox News -- Corn prices are up 60 percent this summer, Christopher Hurt, a Purdue University economic professor, estimates. And now Democratic governors from Maryland, Delaware, North Carolina and Arkansas have joined ranchers, poultry farmers and the United Nations director-general for food and agriculture in asking the Environmental Protection Agency to waive the federal requirement that gasoline contain 10 percent ethanol.
"It's universally acknowledged that ethanol is raising the price of food," Kenneth Green of the American Enterprise Institute said. "It's not lowering the price of gas. In fact, it may be raising the price of gas, and it's having a devastating environmental effect in terms of coastal pollution."Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/16/epa-is-pressured-to-drop-etha


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sparky808
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 3:10:13 PM

End the ethanol mandate.
jethro5000
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 12:51:01 PM

Not enough corn this year due to drought. Corn prices are way up.
kyjlh
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 8:12:37 AM

need new EPA
remay
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 7:20:49 AM

What a concept!
BEGTWO
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 7:03:05 AM

We will see
jrs4125
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 6:08:04 AM

Alrighty then
CrappieFool
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 11:19:20 PM

@CarolinaDragon

I wish it were that simple. It isn't.

Ethanol is simply a bad idea on all counts as to being fuel. For now.

Gas prices would not drop with the elimination of ethanol. Too many other factors influence the price of gas at the pump.

I agree with the sentiment though. I hate to see all that ethanol not going into making great Bourbon really cheap! (grin)
bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 11:16:53 PM

I do not like having ethanol in my vehicle's fuel formulation but I don't know if some of the crop that has been damaged by the drought would only be good for ethanol production anyway.
CarolinaDragon
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 11:01:23 PM

Reduce ethanol and watch prices drop at the pump.
canfranchiser
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:57:20 PM

cut the ethanol requirement to 5% or less, that will take the pressure off the corn market.
mstearno
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:56:12 PM

no food forfuel
millerin
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:54:54 PM

hmm...
CrappieFool
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:53:13 PM

@screwembak

Problem is that the states are responsible for checking and regulating gas stations as to pumping rates and gas quality. I could be wrong about that, but without a funded federal mandate, the costs would come directly from state coffers.

Not arguing the point you made, just pointing out that someone has to pay for the bureaucratic red tape and AFAIK, it isn't the federal government at the pumps.
brutherruther
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:51:26 PM

Ok
jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:50:44 PM


This is as close to a no-brainer as one can get. Ethanol in gasoline was a bad idea from the get-go. Diverting corn to fuel raises food prices, lowers fuel mileage and ultimately increases the consumption of petroleum. Don’t just waive the mandate; repeal it.
Screwembak
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:48:58 PM

Let start properly labelling blended gas so people know exactly what they are buying. If your milk was 10% arsenic that would have to be labelled wouldn't it? Personally I don't mind 5 or 10% ethanol but would like to know exactly what the content is. State to state the difference can be huge.
CrappieFool
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:48:56 PM

NObama 2012

It's not the final answer, but a damn good start!
msienkiewicz
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:47:29 PM

"Once it's entrenched, you have a locked-in lobby that won't let you pry it out," Green said. "No matter that your environmental groups have walked away from it, international groups have walked away from it. Everybody has acknowledged it's bad public policy, but it's dug in like a tick."

Let's find some way to get rid of this....
CrappieFool
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:47:28 PM

@abcdMA

Although I agree, that sounds too much like Finding Nemo's "Fish are not food". LOL!
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:47:17 PM

a govt agency admitting a mistake in policy? yeah, that's gonna happen. our govt is way out of touch with reality. remember, the private sector is doing just fine.
firefly09
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:46:37 PM

Get rid of Ethanol!!!!!!
CrappieFool
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:46:16 PM

"The EPA rally needs to listen to the American people as well as the farmers. Cut back the ethanol, really what could it hurt?"

@tekkersmom57

The "corn farming" states are the ONLY states NOT asking to eliminate the ethanol mandate.

Keep up... ;-)
SavALot
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:44:01 PM

Pressure coming from all sides on this one
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:43:47 PM

food is not fuel
SquawBear
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:43:07 PM

Let's drop the Gas in Ethanol.
Tekkersmom57
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:41:10 PM

The EPA rally needs to listen to the American people as well as the farmers. Cut back the ethanol, really what could it hurt?
cokezero
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:40:24 PM

please do
Prodaddy
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:39:12 PM

Lets hope it sticks
itsjustme719
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:39:00 PM

There are sources of ethanol other than corn.
AKmailman
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:37:03 PM

If it was a real EPA they would have never allowed it in the first place
what part of 'protection" don't they understand ?
n3tbc
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:36:36 PM

DROP IT NOW!!!
Mermaan
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:34:13 PM

Fox
MG_Sputnik
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:34:08 PM

EPA SUCKS!
davenles
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:30:02 PM

Sounds like a reasonable fix.
CrappieFool
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:28:25 PM

Make more good BOURBON!!! (grin)
Blue48
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:25:47 PM

KILL ETHANOL NOW!
bston
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:21:08 PM

Ha ha!
gmcgas
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:21:04 PM

afraid the EPA has too much power. can't vote them out in Nov.
Cableman66
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:20:20 PM

Corn was food before fuel. It needs to stay that way.
mdskier
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:16:58 PM

We need to drop Ethanol IMMEDIATELY on an emergency basis
until the price of corn comes way down.
SparkieMi
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:16:22 PM

Interesting........
mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:15:34 PM

if we can't eliminate it, then delay it for a set time so we can eat!
wayoung56
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:11:26 PM

Wonder if anyone at the EPA cares???
moonrocks
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:08:17 PM

Just do it, and now.
Marson
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:07:05 PM

Ethanol needs to go the way of NTBE. They are both toxic in their own way.
jpgilmor
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:05:47 PM

Gee, guess food for fuel is not such a great idea after all.
carpenter4u
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:04:30 PM

Will hopefully have a much greater chance in January
clermont40miles
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:04:11 PM

EPA cares not a whit about cost. Their agenda would price all energy out of reach. Their Luddite antipathy for America and its prosperity are the root of their rancor.

No pressure will influence the EPA.

That aside, the EPA is not the one mandating ethanol. Congress has. They will not stop the ethanol madness anytime soon. I hope it goes away.

Feed zee korn to zee aneemalz not zee karz!
petrpuck
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:03:38 PM

good
suzmar
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:03:02 PM

The EPA just assumed the power and no one (the legislature) is doing anything about it. The Obama administration appointed the EPA chief, so they are not about to do something about reining them in. We need to stop using ethanol in gasoline now!
John747
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:02:32 PM

People in 3rd world countries will die because politicians in America want to jam ethanol down our throats. Food prices around the world are rising due to our decision to burn part of our food supply.
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