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EPA’s hazy outlook threatens to bankrupt coal-fired power plants

NetRight Daily -- By Rebekah Rast — The nearly five million visitors to the Grand Canyon National Park in Arizona each year stare in awe at the canyon’s long 277 river miles that can be up to 18 miles wide and about a mile deep.

However, even amidst this beauty, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is focused on the haze in the national park and says it is coming from a very important electricity source in the area.

The Navajo Generating Station (NGS), a coal-fired power plant that supplies electricity for the 14 pumping stations required to move water to southern Arizona—to about 80 percent of the state’s population—is being blamed for creating poor air quality in the national park.

Currently, this power plant meets all federal clean air guidelines—except the EPA’s interpretation of the Regional Ha


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2012 5:04:49 AM

as for the Canyon, what good is a national attraction that brings tourist to the area if you can't see it or can't breathe. Aside from being injurious to the Native American population, but then, when has this country ever cared for the First Nations?
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JK: that's good news for a change.
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 2:32:00 PM

Milwaukee's Valley Coal Plant is getting an "upgrade" to Natural Gas... far overdue (it doesn't have current/modern pollution controls) and it's not going to bankrupt We Energies.

It's a Win/Win.
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Thank you Nobama.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 8:31:53 PM by heysailor
<"The utilities refuse to backfit the coal plants so they pollute less. Their excuse is that it's too expensive. What they mean is that they might have to cut dividends or executive compensation and that the investment won't pay for itself by next Wednesday. Personally, I'd rather see the other side of the Grand Canyon. Pig Business has never taken a step to pollute less unless it was forced to. We breathe better as a result of them being forced to.>"
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From the article, "Currently, this power plant meets all federal clean air guidelines—except the EPA’s interpretation of the Regional Haze Rule."

So the plant is FULLY COMPLIANT but for an EPA interpretation???

The Obama/EPA war on coal continues.

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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:45:53 PM

terrible idea
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Nsdp...not one Yankee believes that this country on the whole is in big trouble with this drought. They just turn on their faucets and water magically comes out.

The West, the Southwest are in big trouble as we speak. Water rationing is happening now in many of these states.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:10:59 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:05:42 PM

Romney will get rid of useless bureaucrats and hacks known as EPA--vote REPUBLICAN.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:05:26 PM

The haze is from California and the LA basin that blows right at the canyon. EPA can't even get that right.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:04:20 PM

No surprise.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:02:46 PM

Well that should not be a surprise.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 11:00:03 PM

nsdp: Wow! Lots of good information. Thanks! Its way too easy to mislead people when nobody knows anything about the subject at hand.
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melvindale
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:58:03 PM

Reports of Doom and Gloom are misleading. They won't go bankrupt, that's not to say they won't file for bankruptcy. If the plant makes money they can easily afford to switch to natural gas. That switch would make them more profitable. However, in this part of the country neither make any sense whatsoever.

Lets see, burn a lot of coal to generate a fair amount of electricity, but then lose half of it in lengthy transmission wires. In that part of the country, solar makes the most sense. Break up the power needed to 14 solar arrays to power 14 pumping stations. Then they can take down the transmission lines and sell them for a lot of money to offset the costs of decommissioning the coal plant.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:57:59 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:53:07 PM

geee, u think? most people have no idea what it takes to generate electricity, much less put food in grocery stores. thank god for ignorant public school teachers
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:49:16 PM

Okay.
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Thanks once more for the far right wing editorial point of view fm this political blog NedW."NetRightDaily.com is a project of Americans for Limited Government. The project, launched in August of 2008 by Adam Bitely, seeks to bring you the best of the NetRight Blogosphere."
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:48:18 PM

Well maybe they can place wind mill all over, or fill the canyon with solar panels???
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:47:46 PM

Amazing how dumb this reporter is. Water levels (lack thereof) in Lake Powell will do in these units before the clean air rules do. They have already had to lower the intakes for the cooling water 75 ft two years ago and now there won't be enough water to operate the entire plant through the winter season this year. Another dry winter and there won't be enough water in Lake Powell to run the condensers next summer especially if the Navajo tribe decides not to sell water to the plant. Right now you lose 1mw of hydro at Lake Powell and 1 mw of hydro at Lake Mead for every Mw generated at Navajo (cooling water evaporates doesn't return to the river to go through the hydro turbines). It takes a coal plant 1000 gallons of water to produce 1mw a natural gas u8nit needs 400 gallons. The plant is old and if you know where to look you can see the steam leaks from the water walls from the highway into Page.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:43:56 PM


There is something drastically wrong when the huge output of the Glen Canyon Dam on the Colorado River and the Hoover Dam are not enough for the state and more. Perhaps the fact that much of it is wasted with a real conservation of energy plan missing that requires additional huge amounts of power from the huge dinosaur of a coal fired power plant like the Navajo Station.

The EPA is doing a fine job to protect our health when it is endangered by all the big corporations that push the limits on spewing pollution simply to boost their profits at any price.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:41:40 PM

The EPA is single minded any way. They do what they are told and don't have a mind of their own. Right now they are told to kill anything that is not green.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:41:20 PM

if the plant meets federal guidelines, why is the EPA sticking it's nose in? oh yeah, MONEY
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:40:16 PM

get rid of the restrictive EPA
Ron Paul 2012, still in it
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:40:05 PM

The EPA seems to be making a lot of shady choices lately.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:38:38 PM

With natural gas prices on the rise, the use of coal in on the rise again. Coal is going to be around for a long, long time.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:36:29 PM

see in Jan
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:36:18 PM

We still very much need coal for energy generation. We need coal-energy production at its current level of EPA regulation.

The view of the Grand Canyon is very, very noticeably smoggy though. I lived in Phoenix and I like Phoenix but I will even admit that where it is - in nothing but desert - is no place to have a self-sufficient major metropolitan area.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:35:46 PM

The EPA is out of control. Let's hope a change of administrations can bring this rogue agency under control.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:33:59 PM

What are they doing?
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:30:51 PM

There is haze in every national park.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:29:50 PM

Down with the EPA.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:28:51 PM

Old news!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:28:24 PM

We need more nuclear. If coal is eliminated, electricity rates will double or triple.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:27:18 PM

just what the administration wants
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:26:30 PM

Time to rein in the EPA...
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:25:03 PM

Not good.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:22:12 PM

Old news!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:20:48 PM

EPA could mean extra pathetic agency, Extra political activism...
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:19:57 PM

get hamsters to produce your electricity
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:18:29 PM

Candidate Obama told us he wanted to bankrupt coal companies. Just our luck this is one of the few campaign promises he kept.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:16:24 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:09:43 PM

The EPA is out of control.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:07:27 PM

You are so right a14morfun
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:07:03 PM

Ok.
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Blame Obama????
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:06:24 PM

We need to get rid of these fanatics as soon as we can. We have a Clean Air Act.......not a Pure Air Act!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:05:19 PM

...an interesting political dilemna, no doubt. And where is the saw-off between taking care of our environment and jobs, water, etc?

Somewhere there's got to be a reasonable balance.

Oops. I forgot. Government..., regulatory agencies..., environmental activists..., There IS NO logic or reason. Sigh....
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