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Energy Year Ahead: Energy Lobbyists Gird for Tax Overhaul Fight

Bloomberg -- A battle is brewing over a potential corporate tax overhaul in 2013, and the prospect fills oil and gas lobbyist Lee Fuller with dread.
“As a whole, this industry really doesn’t see an advantage to these proposals that would lower the corporate rates and eliminate deductions,” said Fuller, the vice president for government relations at the Independent Petroleum Association of America.
Translation: the energy industry is going to cling for life to its tax breaks.
Repealing investment benefits -- including one that allows deducting the expenses of everything from roadwork to well repair -- will curtail investments that are lowering foreign oil imports and creating thousands of jobs, Fuller said. Critics -- including President Barack Obama -- say oil and gas companies can afford to give mor


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jrs4125
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 6:17:46 AM

If they're against it I'm for it.
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bell05
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 2:43:01 PM

Yea, BlueVanGroup, I buy that. Good post.
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PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 1:55:28 PM


I bet the oil corporations will be lobbying hard to keep their massive tax breaks and tax subsidies. But people are pissed off about this massive give-away. It's time the taxpayer got that money back.
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bluebird1
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 1:04:35 PM

Here we go again...all taxes except Big Oil & gas will go up because too many politicians are owned by them!!!!
DrCashFlow is right!!!
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DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 12:50:22 PM

kill all the lawyers and lobbyists... kill 'em tonight
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ktyson13
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 10:35:03 AM

Energy companies need to pay less taxes, not more.
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zaq001
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:53:21 AM

Lee Fuller and the rest of the lobbyist are part of the problem. They need to be taken out of the equation. Make the tax code fair, less complicated, and out of reach of politicians and lobbyists!
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Dennisjk
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:50:49 AM

Obama says the oil and gas companies can give more. You have to remember when they are required to give more, they pass that on to the consumers and the consumers are us.
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paulp24
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:45:00 AM

Maybe if the oil companies would let us keep a little bit more of our money we wouldnt be looking and taking theirs. Just sayin...
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VernonOR
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:39:45 AM

One thing I know for sure, if you think the answer to everything is just tax the rich, they will move and take their businesses with them, just like so many corporate American companies have already done. When you tax someone to death you take all the incentives out of trying to be rich if the first place, and trying to better yourself with great innovation and new start-up companies is what made this country great in the first place.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:35:30 AM

they have money to do anything
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BlueVanGroup
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:24:58 AM


"Obama's call to end the $4 billion in annual tax subsidies to oil companies including Exxon Mobil, the biggest U.S. oil company, has failed to pass in either house of Congress."

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Repeat after me:

THERE ARE NO "SUBSIDIES" FOR OIL COMPANIES.

Once again Obama is twisting words. The oil companies are just using the same business deductions any other company uses.

Obama just wants to punish them and steal their money.

Just so we're clear:

* Allowing people and corporations to keep a little more of the money they earned in the first place IS NOT a "subsidy."

* Taking money from those who earned it and giving it to your cronies (e.g. Solyndra) IS a "subsidy."

There will be a test next election day.
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yanman22
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:23:01 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:08:48 AM

It is going to cost us.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:07:02 AM

No matter what they do with business taxation, in the end... we pay for it. With that said, big oil really needs to pay their share.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:06:16 AM

If pro is the opposite of con isn't Con-gress the opposite of pro-gress???
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:05:45 AM

Subsidies need to be reduced, especially for old technology that has been around for more then 20 years. The consumers of those products should be paying for them.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:05:23 AM

Stay tuned.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:04:41 AM

big corporate making millions or billions, why are they still getting tax break compare to mom and pop store that having got no breaks and barely make a living...
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:04:33 AM

The tax code needs a look.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:03:57 AM

Can you imagine the how the government lets these big companies off paying the taxes that you and I have to pay. And then there is a hue and cry not to subsidized new renewable energy companies that have the potential to free us from fossil fuel. Come on this is a bad joke. No more oil, coal and gas subsidies. It is time they stood on their business. The profits have been enormous and the executives made rich on our dime.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:03:19 AM

Keep Us Posted
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:02:49 AM

This morning, I have to agree, BlueVanGroup!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:01:25 AM

Sounds like a battle!
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BlueVanGroup
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:01:07 AM


As history shows, anything Congress does just makes things worse.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:00:53 AM

okay
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:00:41 AM

YEP!!!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:00:41 AM

Interesting to see what happens
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Don20
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:59:51 AM

Any tax that is forced on the oil companies will only be passed along to the consumer...
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:59:43 AM

in the end all new taxes and costs get passed onto us.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:59:41 AM

Vin63, Totally agree. This is just plain obscene!!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:59:17 AM

Ok
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ericbcire
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:58:42 AM

The costs will be passed to consumers.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:58:06 AM

This is welfare.....on the Corporate level.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:56:51 AM

I don't want to tell Nobama however the tax credit we got for a new truck made the difference between buying a new truck and hiring a new man to put on the street or pulling a guy out of the shop and paying him mileage to use his personal vehicle. It really dose make a difference to a small business.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:56:12 AM

will be interesting to see what happens
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GPD1739P
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:55:16 AM

Sorry - subsidies as a whole need to go. Until and unless the US Government starts operating at a surplus, we need to reign in spending wherever we can.
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rrs517
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:54:56 AM

It is about time. The oil industry pays more taxes than any other industry. Their profit margins are only 6% - which is in the middle of the pack of 200+ industries.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:54:37 AM

i hope they remember that high energy costs drag the economy down.
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Gassed01
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:54:31 AM

If they don't pay, cut their massive grants.
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BillHeatherL
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:54:22 AM

of course they do not want to pay more
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:54:07 AM

At least the oil and gas industries provide a useful product, unlike the solar panels and windmills that can't perform 24-7 and are FAR more expensive.

We will save ten times as much money if we end the HALF A TRILLION DOLLARY subsidies to the failed "green energy" companies (donors to the Democrats).

End ALL subsidies.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:53:27 AM

I can't believe how many people on this site still think depreciation of used up oil fields is a subsidy! Now wind, ethanol and solar giveaways are true subsidies and they should have stopped yesterday!
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Gassed01
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:53:12 AM

Big Oil doesn't want to pay their fair share of taxes so they can pad their massive executive bonuses with more cash.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:51:22 AM

They need to pay
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:51:11 AM

Really, I am shocked
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Vin63
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:50:45 AM

Just cut the huge subsidies that the oil industry receives, and has been receiving for 100 years.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:50:27 AM

I dunno what would be worse-more pain & suffering at the pump or higher taxes.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:50:11 AM

osama cuts tax breaks to big oil, big oil continues to raise prices and gouge us the consumers, and recession gets deeper
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Regulate Oil Speculation for lower gas prices! That means the TeaBagging Party of NO would actually have to do something! Bahahahahhaha, that ain't happening!
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