StArrow68

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 6:21:20 AM
Greed didn't kill the wagon, they were another unintended consequence of CAFE. Wagons had to meet car standards while SUVs only had to meet truck standards for mpg. As the article notes, they are great for some folks, glad there are more choices, currently.
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52MPG

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:29:10 PM
Wagons are not in my future.
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FuelBarge

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 8:49:43 AM
Fuel economy? It seems like only yesterday people wanted bigger and powerful and could care less about how many gallons per mile the vehicle got.
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dabayer

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 8:43:21 AM
The reason there aren't wagons anymore is nothing but big auto greed! The car makers have a larger profit margin on trucks and SUVs.
Point in fact, Ford Escape is around $25k, my 2007 Ford FOCUS Wagon SES was $16k.
We don't need no expensive Ford C-Max or any SUV, just bring back the compact sized Focus Wagon!!!
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bston

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 8:06:49 AM
Nice looking vehicles!
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 1:01:06 AM
The wagons do me sense. The ones available are on the expensive side. Someone should put out a lower cost station wagon. I do like the Mazda 5 microvan though.
[Edited by: alterman156 at 12/26/2012 2:02:02 AM EST]
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Tekkersmom57

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 10:38:47 PM
Well said and great point, badbonita!
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jl1rp

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 8:49:59 PM
Make them good looking and sales will came, but SUV are still first will high viewing.
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sillywagon

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 8:30:54 PM
The problem with these "wagons" is not fuel economy, but purchase price.
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mike56MI

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 5:09:53 PM
OK
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KhelbenArunson

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 5:00:40 PM
Awesome.
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TripleHs

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Austin
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 4:48:28 PM
won't buy one
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FortVancouver01

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Washington
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 3:44:40 PM
My parents always owned wagons starting with a 1950 woody which I wish I had today. We had friends that owned a IH Travelall with a diesel engine and I think that was in the early 60's. I agree, we need more diesels.
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JeffersonState

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 3:40:46 PM
This is a group of vehicles that would really benefit following VWs good example of a clean diesel engine.
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PathfinderSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 3:39:33 PM
The fuel economy is one of the things most people think about.
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sciotosix

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 3:12:41 PM
Makes sense.
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DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 2:36:46 PM
I got a strange feeling of deja vu reading that article.
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schatzila

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 2:22:51 PM
Why shouldn't it be important?
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Wally3023

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:56:35 PM
Fuel economy is important for e everyone
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VernonOR

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:53:29 PM
davenles, you said just what I was thinking.
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badbonita

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:52:25 PM
For me, the right balance would be cargo room, mpg, driving comfort and price.
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K9LO

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North Dakota
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:29:25 PM
sell the fuel cheap and the economy will flurish
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DesertRat2011

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:25:53 PM
Need more DIESELS!
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davenles

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Texas
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:04:04 PM
That's a huge market to go after.
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tankumo

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 1:02:38 PM
That's good fuel economy but I still love natural gas cars.
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gbs1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:28:04 PM
I remember a few years back when you couldn't find a wagon from any manufacturer. Amazing turnaround.
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StArrow68

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:19:13 PM
Hatchback or wagon, both fill a need. As noted in the article, many boomers are traveling with 2 and dogs, our normal mode. The wagon fits that need just fine, my hatchback, Vette comes into it's own as a fun grocery getter. Enjoy what you drive. Merry Christmas!
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timesaverinc

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:16:28 PM
I have 4 kids need SUV, especially when we take road trips
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genoist

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Orlando
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 12:04:58 PM
Interesting. It makes sense to me though.
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Wizrd03

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:39:13 AM
Funny how styles come & go.
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dacofa

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:34:11 AM
63 Galaxie any day.
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Barfood

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:23:14 AM
Sounds like this segment could uproot the compact SUV segment.
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kag2010

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:20:33 AM
Including several new hybrid..
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drillintheUSA

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:16:20 AM
Station Wagons rule:) Our family motto: "never let the size of your vehicle(s) determine the size of your family!"
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abacus44

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Toms River
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:16:16 AM
OK
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outlaw329

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Austin
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:15:35 AM
Taxrefugee is correct, if they would just listen!
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SavALot

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:12:35 AM
Should be a main selling point always
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leraar2

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:12:22 AM
more tip-over specials.
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boldrph

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Topeka
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:12:13 AM
choices!
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:11:25 AM
Makes sense.
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icer06

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Huntsville
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:10:15 AM
It sure would be for me.
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garjul

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Flint
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:09:32 AM
About time they're getting the fuel economy up.
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Delight777

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:09:26 AM
Good news.
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txequitygas

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Houston
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:08:57 AM
When does a fuel cell vehicle for 5 with cargo come along?
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TheeRedRam

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:08:51 AM
Times are changing.
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BBHybrid

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:08:09 AM
make fuel efficiency better
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Taxrefugee

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:07:52 AM
Hello Obama. Hello Congress. Hello greenies. Cost does matter to the end purchaser.
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I10Express

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:07:51 AM
OK but not the vehicle for me
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RONALD777

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Houston
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:07:09 AM
Good fuel economy is always important.
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2granny

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:06:37 AM
All depends on your needs.
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