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Gas Drilling Is Called Safe in New York

The New York Times -- The state’s Health Department found in an analysis it prepared early last year that the much-debated drilling technology known as hydrofracking could be conducted safely in New York, according to a copy obtained by The New York Times from an expert who did not believe it should be kept secret.

The analysis and other health assessments have been closely guarded by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and his administration as the governor weighs whether to approve fracking. Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, has long delayed making a decision, unnerved in part by strident opposition on his party’s left. A plan to allow a limited amount of fracking in the state’s Southern Tier along the Pennsylvania border is still seen as the most likely outcome, should the drilling process receive final approval.


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 3:50:36 AM

endy: I agree. The man is neither a scientist nor honest w/ his people. Too long in politics already.
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endymion
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 8:35:31 AM

Fracking is NOT safe - Cuomo can be bought for the right price, just like any other politician.
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DanMtz
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 8:03:51 AM

Who expects politicians to be objective?
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 7:44:21 AM

LOL, no wonder Cuomo felt he had to hide these findings!
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tomok
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 2:09:55 AM

Gas Drilling Is Called Safe in New York? What are they thinking? There already are areas in New York that have severe ground water problems. What next?
Horizontal natural gas drilling, more rock and subsurface fracking and possible pollution to the underground water resources. What happens when the ground water is deemed Not Safe and Unfit for drinking?
Big Oil and Big Gas sells fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices. Big Gas transports natural gas to the refineries, processes it, loads it onto tankers for the sale to other countries.
The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! These resources are Not to be exported without taking care of the domestic market first.
As more and more vehicles are converted to natural gas the price of natural gas will go up and up, natural gas will Not have a reasonable price for very long. Keep natural gas for heating homes and businesses.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
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SHEP20715
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 1:31:46 AM

IT is not necessarily safe in NY or anywhere else for that matter
Safe drinking water is far more important
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MrPony
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:43:40 PM

If it's safe in NY, why not Alaska?
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:27:04 PM

@pissedatthepump -- don't forget that all the people on here that are all in for it ONLY want cheap gas they don't care. people have always had a price they would sell out for -- just gets lower and lower
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Zonk
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:25:29 PM

Go ahead and frack.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:24:27 PM

@Pissedatthepump .... BINGO ! ! ! !
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naspa
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:19:10 PM

Of course is safe. The people that lit their water on fire are wonder workers. They were directly blessed by divinity with marvelous powers to make fun of us on YouTube.
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PissedATthePump
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:17:50 PM

@ Aviator Rob: My answer to the question of "Why would anyone be okay with that kind of uncertainty". Because the land men and drillers sell the DREAM that fracking will make everyone in town a millionaire. Signing all these folks up with leases creates the political will to move ahead with drilling. The reality is that the directional drilling on these wells can bypass the gas lease holdouts as well as the greedy who made better deals for themselves.(no check for you) ...and the gas still flows to market.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:12:06 PM

Pretty soon it will be safe everywhere.
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mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:11:44 PM

Another reason not to live in New York.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:10:18 PM

Safe you say...
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:07:19 PM

Glad I don't live there.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:06:36 PM

Surprise, Surprise.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:06:33 PM

i am not sure that it is really safe anywhere.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:06:17 PM

I guess they didn't see the new Matt Damon movie?
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:03:52 PM

Gee how about that!
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:03:42 PM

go for it
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:03:27 PM

I am a NYer too and rudy did all he could to turn it into disney too. people dont know how unpopular he was before that terrible day when he showed amazing leadership.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:03:10 PM

How about that.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:03:04 PM

Only in NY?
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:02:35 PM

Good.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:02:19 PM

Yeah right.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:02:17 PM

Only at 16 oz's or less! :)
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:02:05 PM

Politics vs. science.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:01:27 PM

Get Fracking!
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:00:00 PM

It Is!!
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:59:44 PM

Sorry to disappoint, @gsayeg1, but no more hookers on 42nd Street. Disney took care of all that.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:58:55 PM

me either - keep up the good fight... use logic and facts and EVENTUALLY some may see the light.
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:58:02 PM

or even use up the rest of the worlds oil before needing to do this. it could be our safety net until other sources of energy are viable but people only think about today and tomorrow and no further.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:57:48 PM

I'm not ready to give up the good fight, @WanderDan. That's what the faux conservatives want. To just have the other side give up and go home.

As long as I'm still breathing, I have a dog in this fight.
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Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:55:11 PM

@WanderDan is right. And besides, why is everyone in such a hurry to start drilling? The faster we drill, the faster all of the shale gas will be gone. It's not an unlimited resource. Let the other states conduct this experiment on their drinking water while New York sits back and watches the results.

In 10 years, Pennsylvania will be out of shale gas and New York will have just begun drilling, with even better technology and safeguards.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:54:44 PM

safe????? Drilling on 42nd St. - what about the hookers????? Don't worry they will have a special for every 6" inches you drill you get the same with them
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:54:15 PM

@ Aviator Rob... i think it is a losing battle to try to make sense with far too many people on here or sadly in our entire society. Faux news tells them anything that slows business in anyway is too liberal. While most have been convinced to side with a party that gives them "villians" to blame but don't realize they vote against their best interests. I mean you come on here and there is even alink saying obama is coming for your guns....

[Edited by: WanderDan at 1/3/2013 11:57:21 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:51:02 PM

Safe, I am thinking it is going to be a long time before we know. We thought strip coal mining was safe long ago.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:49:30 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:47:08 PM

Safe? For Who ??
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WanderDan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:45:44 PM

Cellsite says "Nothing in this world is completely safe. Just being born is 100% fatal. Keep on drillin'... " That is basically saying oh well roll the dice since nothing is completely safe. WOW! Don't do any further research just keep on drillin.... just a matter of picking a political side and then close your eyes.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:45:40 PM

Well, if it's so safe, why don't they start drilling while the rest of us sit back and watch what happens?
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:44:12 PM

Wow, @swkcpi, what a convincing argument! You really stated your case there.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:44:04 PM

It is safe today, but what about tomorrow
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:42:27 PM

@clermont40miles, you seem to have an extreme hatred for anyone or anything even remotely associated with the environment. Have you ever thought about why? It seems almost completely irrational and knee-jerk.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:40:37 PM

i still think frackers should hav to test wells in a 5 mile radius from where they plan to drill to establish a baseline.

all states are looking @ is tax revenues.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:40:11 PM

Have to disagree, @ManOfLeisureII. In this matter, I don't believe that people are being too risk averse. The stakes are just too high. A clean and functioning aquifer is far more valuable than any shale gas that can be pulled from the ground.

Why is it that it's the most important things that we take most for granted, like clean air and water?
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:39:35 PM

Until something goes wrong.
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:35:46 PM

this has got to be somewhat of a concern to the environmentalists
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Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:34:46 PM

The analysis also rejects a broad quantitative risk assessment of fracking — the kind of study that would try to project the probability of various hazards — saying it would “involve making a large number of assumptions about the many scenario-specific variables that influence the nature and degree of potential human exposure and toxicity.”

So, basically, nobody knows what the effects of hydrofracking could do to the water, the land, and the people that live in these areas of fracking activity. Why would anyone be okay with that kind of uncertainty, especially those who could be impacted?
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