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Gas drilling adds fuel to Pittsburgh's resurgence

The Morning Call -- Pittsburgh, once known as America's Steel City, is laying its RustbeltRust Belt heritage to rest by fostering growth in education and health services, while drawing strength from the booming natural-gas industry it keeps at a distance.

Drilling into Marcellus shale deposits is banned in Pittsburgh, yet hydraulic-fracturing, or fracking, operations in the countrysiSde nearby have helped bring in jobs and boost demand for office space in Pennsylvania's second-biggest city.

"Like eds and meds, like steel once was in Pittsburgh, it would be the industry to grow and employ people and turn the economy around," Mayor Luke Ravenstahl, 32, said of gas extraction. Nearby drilling can provide a "growth mechanism" the city can use to propel a rebound, he said. The city faced insolvency in late 2003,


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Submitted Aug 11, 2012 By: drpepperTX
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honda0105
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LOL, liberals are the gift that just keeps on giving! Thank you txryder for absolutely proving the validity of my point on the fear and paranoia!

Back to reality... the list grows also of proof (not fantasy studies) that ground water contamination behind a trail of FRACKING.

txryder claims "EPA finds fracking water contamination in Wyoming"

FACT: Ohio DNR Geologist: Draft EPA Pavillion study “Truly Flawed Science”, EPA has to retest and then seek peer review

FACT: EPA agrees to more testing of water wells near Pavillion to 'clarify questions', Ooops!

How about Dimock, PA txryder?

FACT:

EPA: Water is safe in town in Pa. drilling region
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T42: I'll pass on the bandwagon ride. But thanks for the offer lol.
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drpeeper wrote "As more and more SCIENTIFIC studies are added to a growing list of studies showing the safety of hydraulic fracturing, the science denial crowd will overlook the science and continue to promote fear. Yelling "the water's on fire etc.". "
HaHaHa! Typical right wing radical delusional assessment. Monkey puts hands over eyes and see no evil, monkey puts hands over ears, hear no evil. LMAO! Give drpeeper his banana.
You can bet those scientific studies were backed by big oil to cover their greedy little butts as usual.

Back to reality... the list grows also of proof (not fantasy studies) that ground water contamination behind a trail of FRACKING.

EPA Finds FRACKING Contaminated Drinking Water in Wyoming

EPA supplying drinking water after FRACKING contamination

Dimock, PA FRACKING: EPA Water Samples Contained 'Dangerous' Levels Of Methane

Feds Link Water Contamination to FRACKING for the First Time

[L=http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2012-06-05/text deleted Contaminated water, cancer potential dangers of FRACKING[/L]



[Edited by: TXryder at 8/12/2012 2:56:50 PM EST]
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Smoke and mirrors BIG GREED industry spin and propaganda ......

Jump on folks. Enjoy the ride :0\
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Came at a good time for the area...
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As shown by the posts below from teafertwo and tomok.

THE WITCH HUNTS WILL CONTINUE:

As more and more SCIENTIFIC studies are added to a growing list of studies showing the safety of hydraulic fracturing, the science denial crowd will overlook the science and continue to promote fear. Yelling "the water's on fire etc.".

They'll continue to chant the thoroughly debunked claims of Josh Fox "Gasland" propaganda.

And the latest from the purveyors of fear??? Insurance!!! Aha, this will be the nail in the trackers coffin! Oh wait...."Fracking-related losses have never been a covered loss under personal or commercial lines policies." - Nationwide Insurance Co.

So now it's water use eh? As each aspect of the witch hunt against oil and gas production is knocked down by science these yahoos will come up with something else out of the blue. Show me one state where oil and gas comapanies use more than a tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the total water usage. While your at it show me a state that doesn't allow golf courses to use hundreds of times more water than drilling. You cannot, case closed. 

You see, there is a huge amount of deceiving information spouted out to the public about hydraulic fracturing, a decades-old technology. Those who spread this misinformation are mostly preying on the public's fears, with an ultimate goal of forcing state governments to succumb to that fear and prevent or even ban hydraulic fracturing. We need to make sure that the discussion is productive, and that any rules are legitimately conceived. Fact must be sEPArated from fiction.

The most common claim talking point is that hydraulic fracturing contaminates ground water. This is baseless. Have you ever noticed that the critics who make that claim never provide concrete evidence? The reason for their omission? It is obvious why. After being used more than 1.2 million times there have been no confirmed cases of hydraulic fracturing contaminating water. None. Never. Ever.

As EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in April of 2012, "In no case have we made a definitive determination that the fracking process has caused chemicals to enter groundwater." 

The three "smoking gun" cases that the anti-shale zealots were sinking their teeth into have proven false or based on very poor science. See Pavillion WY, Dimoch, PA, and Parker County, TX.

The latest fear mongering is "climate change" thru methane emission from hydraulic fracturing. Once again SCIENTIFIC investigation has shown the EPA using numbers that are overblown  by 50%.

Oh and the "evil Halliburton Loophole" talking point! LOL, what a joke. This is the errant claim born out of the yellow journalism of "gasland", a proven fraudulent film by Josh Fox, that hydraulic fracturing is "exempt" from the Safe Drinking Water Act, thanks to an energy bill passed by Congress in 2005. The truth??? SDWA has been the law of the land for nearly 40 years, and at no point has it ever covered hydraulic fracturing. Why??? States already tightly and effectively regulate the process. 

How can an industry be exempt from something that never covered you in the first place? But you hear this falsehood talking point most every time the subject comes up.

It is important to rely on facts and the science, not fear-mongering talking points. The shale gas and oil boom is the result of U.S. business innovation and risk-taking. If we let the fear of undocumented pollution kill this boom, we will deserve our fate as a second-class industrial power.
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Natural Gas drilling and production, Fracking and an increase in the state and cities income. What a deal this has become!
Prove fracking does Not containment the ground water or shut up!
Limit Fracking, protect the surface and ground waters, people, animals and the earth at all times! Fracking water and sand contains pollutants released from underground rock and brought to the surface: Lead, Methane, various gasses and chemicals, radioactive rock and materials and whatever else that may be contained in the underground rock or sand deposits. Do Not dispose of fracking waste water into the underground structure but 'treat' the fracking waste water for careful and safe release on the surface.
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Water is essential to life.

Even this industry shill has trouble posting an article that doesn't point out fracking negatives.

FROM THE ARTICLE:

Not everyone welcomes the gas industry. In November 2010, the City Council banned the drilling, as it typically relies on the fracking process, in which a mix of water, sand and chemicals is injected into a shale bed deep underground to free trapped gas.

"We all have children and grandchildren and as representative of District 1 and also as president of council, I need to be worried about the health, safety and welfare of the residents of Pittsburgh," council President Darlene Harris said in her City Hall office. She said gas companies should disclose more about their methods and be subject to tighter rules.

More than 69 percent of city residents view fracking as a moderate or significant threat to public health, according to Emily Dutton Craig, a spokeswoman for a University of Pittsburgh research group that released a survey last month on the quality of life in the region.

The potential negative effects of drilling may eclipse the devastation wreaked on the region by coal, which is taking a century and billions of dollars to mitigate, said David Masur, executive director of PennEnvironment Research and Policy Center. The Philadelphia-based organization has pressed for a suspension of gas drilling.

Those who point to job and revenue gains from the industry are "shortsighted," he said.

"You can make data tell any story you want," Masur said. "We know, as we've seen time and time again with these boom and bust economies, they often leave a huge legacy of social and environmental problems in their wake."

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Drought or no drought, fracking wastes precious water for NG.
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No fraking way
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OK!
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The City hopes to leach off this.
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Great for business but bad for homeowners.
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Good 4 Pitt!
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ok
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Fraking, just say no.
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Now lets get the steel business back!
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Way to go Pittsburgh!
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Congratulations..?
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Good for those getting jobs.
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Way to go Pittsburg, show other cities how to remake themselves.
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good for them
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Yeah but who would want to drink the water?
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K
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Drill, Baby, Drill!!
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Mayor Luke Ravenstahl for president in 2016.
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Watch the Anti-Fracking Loons start raining on this parade.
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Just drill!
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More jobs is a good thing.
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Sounds like a good thing for Pitt to me. Got to keep our cities alive and flourishing.
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ok
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Not in my back yard, but in my neighbor's yard is fine.
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OK
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They want the jobs and money but not in their back yard???
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so this is why the Prates are playing better
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eastern Ohio is benefiting a lot as well
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too bad they aren't making steel again.
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altima2008 - I agree with WC Fields.
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Like most leftists, Pittsburgh wants to have it both ways - they don't want drilling in their back yards, but they want the revenue from drilling in somebody else's.
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good luck, drill
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ok...
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Good for pittsburgh, good city with good people!
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