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Government Motors: GM Stock Hits New Low, Taxpayer Loss Hits $35 Billion

Investors.com -- General Motors (GM) shares closed down 1.5% to 19.02 on Monday, hitting 18.85 intraday. That's the lowest since the U.S. auto giant came public again in November 2010 at 33 a share.

That raises the taxpayer loss on the GM bailout to just shy of $35 billion. Here's the math:

GM doesn't have to pay back anything else, but taxpayers are still out $26.4 billion in direct aid. The Treasury still owns 26.5% of GM — 500 million shares. The stock would have to rise to about 53 to break-even on that direct aid. At the current price, the Treasury's stake is worth just $9.51 billion. (Taxpayers lose $5 million for each penny that GM stock falls).

That would leave taxpayers out $16.9 billion. But the true cost is much higher.

President Obama let GM keep $45 billion worth in past losses...


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Submitted Jul 25, 2012 By: Packrsbeatdabrs
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RONALD777
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 3:43:05 PM

Thank you Obama.
markbaily
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:39:41 AM

Typical US government. You guys should all come live in Canada.
gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 7:00:25 AM

Had GM been allowed to go into Chapter 7 bankruptcy, most of its plants would have been bought up by other makers, who would have reemployed most of its workers.

But the expensive UAW contracts would have been nullified. Even if the plants recertified with the UAW, negotiations would have started from scratch.

The Obama bailout of GM (and Chrysler) was really a gift to the UAW, and an unfair one. Besides letting them keep some portion of their lavish contracts, other creditors, like bondholders, were stiffed.

GTH
rahcat
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:05:38 PM

Bailouts don't work. Should have let them go belly up. Thanks Mr. President. Maybe it's time for you to into forced retirement.
nru
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:04:03 PM

So let's just let the auto industry go the way of the dinosaurs and buy everything from CHINA - they could supply us with cars cheaper, and then after that we could buy our military hardware from them for cheap too - what a great country. Pocketbook, party, country - oh wait, that's not my oath - something about God, corps, country.... oh well, let's go to Wal Mart for some more Chinese stuff - cheaper than American - commies are great!!!
Dodge_Me
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 11:02:41 PM

Thats not good, the volt did it. :-)
umitb
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:59:20 PM

ok
ty58
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:58:58 PM

it'll go back up
srchr
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:57:19 PM

pure politix - courting the union vote
aggietim
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:55:31 PM

not good
Shakleelady31
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:55:07 PM

Interesting.
TFowler513
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:50:44 PM

More money down the tubes!!!
GAS1251
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:45:17 PM

Lopks like Government motors is still a loser.
jessek
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:42:53 PM

We knew that
jlisk1970_us
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:41:29 PM

Check out the dealerships. They won't sell the vehicles unless they are going to get plenty for it.
DrLyon
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:36:41 PM

What's up....
GM is building better cars...
Come on stock market...
TxPDawg
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:34:25 PM

9.51 Billion dollars, that's billion with a B.. Now that's a lot of money. Send me some!!
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:32:39 PM

control freak vehicles = junk & high costs!!
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:31:46 PM

That's why so many people say, "No bailouts"!
saleboss
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:27:47 PM

I think we should let them go under for good this time!
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:26:35 PM

I really think they had no intention of paying anything back, just to keep their fat checks coming in.
Vette1967
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:26:08 PM

Where did all that money go??
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:25:12 PM

Another wonderful deal struck by Obomanation. Fire him in November!!!
mstearno
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:24:52 PM

very good
the original stock holders were run over by OBAMA
the new one deserve the same
WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:21:15 PM

Not good.
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:18:21 PM

and based on the "approved" account methods that are now employed at GM, exect a cash flow crisis and another bankruptcy filing in the relatively near future.
Tekkersmom57
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:17:27 PM

I don't understand how the CEOs and Executives at GM can possibly continue to receive the exorbitant amount of bonuses they had in the past. It just doesn't seem right that we, the American people bail them out and then pat them on the back and say....good job, here's a bonus!
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:15:42 PM

Great post by mcmonsta!!!!!
BoerneWatch
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:14:39 PM

Hold on there cowboys.

Our President is touting how good a job he did investing our money in GM.

The president of GM came on TV to tell us that they were now profitable.

So how could the loss now hit $35,000,000,000.00?
petrpuck
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:13:14 PM

oh oh
Bonito
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:13:07 PM

Though this was political! I get enough of this crap on TV!
naiiawah
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:12:24 PM

Doh!
DEG
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:11:51 PM

Obama touts the bailout of GM; yet we taxpayers are continuing to pay for this poor decision.
itsjustme719
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Time to fire some of the upper management!
mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:06:27 PM

make their executives pay it back with their cars houses investments...aren't they the ones who got GM there in the first place..or is there no blame any more!!!
Palantas
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:06:23 PM

Too bad. Seems they're making decent cars these days.
Cuzilla
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I hope they collapse and take the UAW with them!
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:02:58 PM

blaa blaa
serrog
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:02:40 PM

Still make a good car
letmathe
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:02:35 PM

Focus2 ... thanks for the clarification.
Focus2
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 10:00:15 PM

Bonanza said, Ford is the only American auto maker that did not take taxpayer money

That is not true, as they also accepted a government loan.
GassyKat
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:58:49 PM

sigh
carloco75
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:58:06 PM

Ouch...
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:56:36 PM

Crazy
cokezero
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:55:53 PM

ok
KhelbenArunson
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:54:23 PM

Hmmm
mitchell6597
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:54:03 PM

Um, I bought a Toyota.....
seeyardee
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:53:03 PM

Don't feel bad for the stock market investors. They've been making money for years. And what's $35 billion? One day of war?
CapNC
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:52:18 PM

If I buy a new car it will be a Ford, took it like a man - didn't bend over for the nut in washington
aalix
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:50:23 PM

GM still a drain to taxpayers.
Mustache_33
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2012 9:50:02 PM

GM does make money, it's just that the directors & Execs still get paid exorbitantly with their bonus package and benefits intact. So ... how could you expect for it to bounce back. The bailout money should be paid back ... in some form of no interest payment plan. A reduction in exec salary or bonus pay
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