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Hydrogen generator begins operating at Toyota's Torrance headquarters

dailybreeze -- Toyota executives have removed the equivalent of 294 cars from the roads.

A new hydrogen-run generator at the Japanese car company's Torrance campus started operating on Wednesday, with the promise to reduce 3.3 million pounds of carbon dioxide emissions each year.

"This is another opportunity for Toyota to reduce its environmental footprint," said Bob Daly, senior vice president of Toyota Motor Sales USA, the company's U.S. sales and marketing arm.

The power generation process creates no emissions, with only water and heat as by-products.

Through vehicles with high gas mileage, including the top-selling gas-electric hybrid Prius, Toyota has cultivated an image as an environmentally friendly company. The new generator, which uses a fuel cell to convert hydrogen into electri


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bston
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 10:48:54 PM

Good for Toyota & they're always on the cutting edge of technology.
playtimeCLE
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 5:12:32 PM

Nice positive move for Toyota.
truvoice1
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 2:41:27 PM

Good for Toyota; maybe someday we'll see this applied to some of their vehicles.
Radar1992
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:29:12 PM

You can't get something for nothing in physics or chemistry.

You have to produce the hydrogen....unless we are getting it from the sun....

The burning by product is water...but isn't water vapor a greenhouse gas?
md11capt
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 10:29:29 AM

Big question is how do you generate the hydrogen?
ss70
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 8:31:38 AM

toyota should act like Tesla and build Hydrogen filling station all over.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 3:28:42 AM

Good on Toyota. I think Hydrogen power has the most potential in the long term.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 2:22:53 AM

...more good clean water disappears...
vulcan96
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:34:16 AM

how much did that hydrogen cost that saved $130,000 of their electric bill?
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 1:00:24 AM

It uses water in the reaction, but water is produced and reused.
Nice way to reduce fossil fuel usage.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:59:35 AM

On Oct 18, 2012 12:28:14 AM, ItisAJeepThing wrote:

>You pass large quantities of electricity through water.
>You generate hydrogen and oxygen.

That's a science class trick, but it's too expensive for commercial production of hydrogen. And it wouldn't make sense to use electricity to make hydrogen to make electricity.

Industrial production of hydrogen consists of steam reforming of methane (the predominant component of natural gas). Or, as their hydrogen supplier (Air Products) says in their press release about the Toyota hydrogen fuel cell, "sourced through the purchase of landfill generated renewable bio-gas." Guess that $64 line of verbiage sounds more politically correct to California ears than "methane."

Steam reforming of methane creates carbon dioxide... so Toyota gets to say they don't create carbon dioxide while shifting the carbon dioxide off to their supplier.


[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 10/18/2012 2:01:19 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:54:42 AM

Cool
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:53:36 AM

Great
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:53:22 AM

.
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Got a wait till 2015 for the wheels...
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:50:28 AM

Sounds good.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:46:42 AM

I got my fill, time to bed, almost 2 am here.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:44:16 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:43:40 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:43:11 AM


I wonder if this is a prelude to a H-cell car...
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:42:14 AM

This sounds breakthrough-fantastic. Let us await the results with great interest.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:42:05 AM

Great.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:41:35 AM

Hooray, another winner from those folks at Toyota. Arigato.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:40:10 AM

Good for them.....
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:39:27 AM

Interesting.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:38:23 AM

How far can it go on its "fuel"?
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:35:51 AM

This is very interesting. Is this technology Toyota's next car?
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:28:14 AM

You pass large quantities of electricity through water. You generate hydrogen and oxygen. Keep them apart or they will explode back into water and produce a lot of energy. Do this mixing slowly to recover the energy to run your vehicle. Have to have solar panels to provide the initial electricity or a very long cord. They produce more water when the hydrogen and oxygen combine and produce the energy. Reuse this water by passing large quantities of electricity through it as in step #1.

Perpetual motion as long as the solar cell keeps producing enough electricity. Don't travel at night or during cloudy weather.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:27:04 AM

good for them
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:25:58 AM

Water is too valuable use for this
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:23:59 AM

Way to go Toyota!
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:23:23 AM

Better than solar and no tall towers for a wind mill.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:23:13 AM

How much does it really save?
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:22:36 AM

al gore invented this
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moonrocks ... We can only hope.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:21:07 AM

It will make the cost of sea water go up too
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:20:12 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:20:09 AM

Putting on the green face to sell more cars.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:19:14 AM

yep that's right use water to make power,pure genius.people don't need water to drink,and ? this won't eventually catch on and drive the cost of drinking water through the roof.they keep forgetting to mention this when touting the miracle of hydrogen not to mention it being highly flammable.led zepplin bang zoom right to the moon alice. : )in case you didn't knw that where they got their bands name......look it up you may learn something new today.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:16:48 AM

Hopefully on their own initiative, without government subsidy.

Good on ya.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:16:32 AM

good for them but at what cost
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:16:12 AM

But will it fit into an engine compartment?
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:13:13 AM

nice going, Toyota
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:10:51 AM

Good for them. But at what cost? Are they not going to sell an extra 294 cars to the Chinese?
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:07:28 AM

Am I soupposed to be excited...
LanguageMan1
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:06:15 AM

Well it's about time someone does.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:03:39 AM

What?
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:03:27 AM

This is absolutely FANTASTIC!!!
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:00:53 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2012 12:00:32 AM

Good for Toyota.
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 11:56:44 PM

good for them...
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2012 11:55:37 PM

Good for Toyota.
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