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Memo to Renewable Energy Industry: Natural Gas Is Good, Bad and Ugly

Forbes -- Over the past decade, renewable energy has moved from the margins into the mainstream of America’s energy economy. If it wants to stay there, it should start playing nice with natural gas, especially the clean kind.

The United States boasts an estimated 2.2 trillion cubic feet of technically recoverable natural gas reserves. How America manages that resource could kill renewable energy or catalyze it.

The stakes of getting natural gas policy right are spectacularly high for renewable energy. Kevin Doran and Adam Reed explain why in a post on Yale360.

The sudden drop in wholesale power prices triggered by cheap natural gas prices is undercutting the economics of wind power and solar photovoltaic projects. “Installation of new renewable energy facilities has now all but dried up, unable


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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 6:05:39 PM

Is good lats use it
LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 5:13:32 PM


The author is quoting almost verbatim the Pickens Plan. It has made sense to me for years.
leraar2
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 10:19:30 AM

equalize the playing field.

subsidize renewable energy sources (a good thing for the future)
by taxing natural gas usage.
NukeAtComEd
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 9:49:17 AM

the author is correct assuming we don't have eco-nuts who hate any fossil fuels running the administration like they do now!
zwsn01
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 8:52:25 AM

Let's use the resource while it's cheap. Capitalism will decide when to move on to other sources like wind or solar.
crep1291
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 8:08:34 AM

Natural gas is only relatively cheap in North America. Renewables are price competitive in the rest of the world, aside from burning dirty coal. Besides, NG prices will eventually go up in North America as more and more people use it for transportation and heating.
335d1
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 6:17:11 AM

If we have natural gas, let's use it.
George0446
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 4:15:12 AM

Let the free market rule. We will then have the echonomy and technology to do anything that is needed.
trinda1
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 2:59:05 AM

So true.
OHMS
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 2:58:52 AM

I read this before; OLDS not NEWS
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:45:05 AM

Cost INEFFECTIVE...
MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:34:08 AM

Use it for stationary power plants. The big jet turbines run very well on it. Leave the gasoline for the cars and trucks.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:33:26 AM

The market should decide.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:17:38 AM

Wouldn't mind using LNG if they could modify my current vehicle cheaply & efficiency was similar or better than gasoline. However CNG is way too dangerous for a multitude of people to have in their vehicles.
gaswatchON
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 1:04:49 AM

Natural Gas will keep the wheels turning without polluting and alternative fuel sources can be still expermented with
GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:53:19 AM


Low natural gas prices couldn't come at a better time now that the economy is in shambles and there are so many political problems with the foreign sources of oil the US depends on. The government forcing business and individuals to spend more than necessary on alternative energy will only prolong this bad economy. The government needs to put together a realistic energy policy for this country that will help the economy grow while setting the stage for future use of alternative energy.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:49:54 AM

ok
JohnofGB
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:45:43 AM

We are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas with no policy for its use. Way to go , Washington and Obama. T Boone Pickens is ahead of his time and Washington is acting like an ostrich.
LilRedWagonIN
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:36:25 AM

Getting any policy right is practically impossible for government. Free market sorts everything correctly.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:32:37 AM

At the very least let the markets decide!
99
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:31:53 AM

Great
dave12
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:31:40 AM

Like solar, wind and ETHANOL!
dave12
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:30:35 AM

Maybe with the ouster of Orectum at the next election we get rid of some of this WASTEFUL ALTERNATIVE ENERGY!
tessnlu
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:23:31 AM

In my opinion...natural gas is not really that cheap.
n3tbc
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:23:25 AM

Lets see how cheap it stays...
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:23:25 AM

OK
langolera
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:21:25 AM

andddddddddd?????????????? natural gas is cheap, clean and no arab oil need...
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:20:11 AM

Price of gas will go up like oil because greedy washington congressmen tax the over the road mileage of vehicles that use it. A no win situation.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:18:11 AM

Providing full service gas stations again will increase the jobs available out there and we can pay for that and still save with the cost of Natural Gas! Not at the mercy of the big oil for gas or overseas gouging by foreign oil providers!! It's time we got with the program and started providing for our people again with reasonable costs for transportation!!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:15:30 AM

oil is the good bad and the ugly
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:15:18 AM

Proceed with caution, for the price of gas may go up as oil has, continue to build alternative energy sources. If we had stopped back in Ronald Reagans days we would a lot farther along to day, and would most likely have a better system.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:15:03 AM

Let's focus on the hydrogen fuel cell.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:14:56 AM

Quite a convenient truth.
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:14:23 AM

Very interesting
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:13:33 AM

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RENEGADEGAS
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:12:26 AM

Interesting move from the greenie weenies. Oil and Gas are bad, as is coal, and now natural gas. All the cheapest forms of energy are bad for America and thier phoney climate change theories. Alternative fuels are not yet fully developed and the ones that are are extremely high priced. Whos promoting and selling the alternatives?? THE GREENIE WEENIES!!Anyone else seeing a convenient pattern. We need to tell them to shove their alternatives and start firing back up the coal plants on our own. Obviously they dont have the best interests of the nation or us as thier top priority.

[Edited by: RENEGADEGAS at 8/16/2012 1:14:30 AM EST]
Bruno44
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:10:48 AM

Maybe Ron is tired of the BS articles.
rd2000
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:10:43 AM

we need this energy.
Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:09:13 AM

Still posting one word answers RON! You can do better than that, good grief!!!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:09:00 AM

On balance I am not persuaded by the article.
Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:07:51 AM

No we DON'T NEED MORE CNG STATIONS! Have you any idea of the safety issues of allowing the public to pump this... Simply irresponsible, if we go there. We'll have to go back to FULL SERVICE, service stations... Best case scenario is to bring CNG and Propane, into the Fleet market in cities and bus services, where people can be trained and the cost savings can save the taxpayer as well. Saving the cities money is good for ALL! Forget the general population, we have enough of a problem with people pumping their own fuel as it is!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:07:09 AM

But we have plenty of it!
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:04:59 AM

What?
WhatthaF
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:03:28 AM

Need more CNG stations
kgbellman
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:02:19 AM

Well, electricity is good, but coal is bad . . .
erik_8
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2012 12:02:13 AM

More choice is better.
suicyco16
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2012 11:57:49 PM

Isn't everything good and bad?
suicyco16
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2012 11:54:12 PM

we need more of this
PetroScopper
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2012 11:52:21 PM

We will have to see how this all plays out... much of that will be determined by who wins the office.
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2012 11:50:50 PM

ok
dky63
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2012 11:50:22 PM

Go CNG
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