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Ministers join speed camera debate in St. Louis County

St Louis Post Dispatch -- ST. LOUIS COUNTY • A group of local ministers today called on County Council members to put the debate over speed enforcement cameras before voters.

The ministers don't believe the cameras have made roads safer and argue that the tickets they generate are hurting people who can least afford them. They want the County Council to place the issue of regulating speed cameras on a ballot.

"We certainly think they need to put an end to these things just being used as speed traps," said the Rev. B.T. Rice of New Horizon Christian Church, who organized a news conference this morning at Shalom Church City of Peace in Florissant with eight other ministers from north St. Louis County.


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Cashless
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 9:44:18 AM

Good to know.
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I live in california
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 5:33:24 AM

God to the rescue!
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 1:30:46 AM

"If you're speeding and/or driving recklessly, you're putting much more in jeopardy than the cost of a speeding ticket. Say for instance, oh I don't know, killing someone, ruining lives and going to jail! If you're going to speed, then don't be shocked by a ticket."

If I'm "speeding" in a place with an speed limit set artificially low for the purpose of revenue generation, am I really putting anyone in danger? Really?

Ha!
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SovietSunrise
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 1:28:38 AM

"Don't break the law and you get no ticket fine."

You really think it's that simple? What if the law is wrong? What if the reasoning for the law is for revenue generation and not for public safety?
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danindenver
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:49:42 PM

Actually, in Colorado, the legislature realized that speed cameras were simply a cash grab and they acted to restrict it.

It's hard though, when you have so many folks out there who don't understand what is going on with this issue - and don't care. Perhaps we should crack down on jetski scofflaws, next.

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." - Floyd Ferris in Atlas Shrugged

Don't be a Floyd.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:33:55 PM

follow the speed limit!
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:32:46 PM

Love it when people who vote for and elect big government and their ideals are now moaning and groaning about it.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:23:43 PM

The ministers are concerned that money that would have gone to the church is being redirected to municipal coffers through the speed camera ticketing of church goers.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:15:32 PM

Hey mrbee: If you get the traffic cams outta Arkansas let me know how and I'll strat on Louisiana next. Good luck
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More BIG BROTHER.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:06:33 PM

voters pay for this in taxes so they should decide how their money is spent
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:00:57 PM

I am for putting an end to them.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:00:43 PM

Cameras are usually installed by a party who gets a cut of the ticket money in one way or another. Sending a ticket to the registered (plate) owner does not ensure that the person who broke the law pays.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 11:00:17 PM

dhan for cheap gas
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:58:51 PM

Speed Trap = Money Trap
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:57:42 PM

If you're speeding and/or driving recklessly, you're putting much more in jeopardy than the cost of a speeding ticket. Say for instance, oh I don't know, killing someone, ruining lives and going to jail! If you're going to speed, then don't be shocked by a ticket.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:53:17 PM

The only reason they care is because it cuts in to church profit when the congregation is spending their money on fines instead of dropping it in the church bank.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:53:16 PM

The keyword here is 'speed trap', which they are.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:45:18 PM

humm..m
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:41:59 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:39:19 PM

look at the studies
less accidents means safer
DUH
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:37:42 PM

Of course it doesn't make a difference to safety, it is all about income for government.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:37:10 PM

Blah ...
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Ok
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:27:59 PM

Lol, you should let them try redlight cameras... Usually shorten the yellow lights to go with it.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:26:35 PM

MILLONS FOR CHARITY !!!!!! NOT ONE DIME for speed trap cameras!! or something to that effect. Giggity !
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:26:26 PM

ministers??
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:22:28 PM

Haha, cutting into their donations. Don't break the law and you get no ticket fine.
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I wonder if I could get a glamor shot in my Studebaker.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:20:53 PM

Easy way to balance the city budget. Reduce the speed limit in town and then put a speed camera right at the city limits and catch them as they're slowing down.

IOW, these cameras aren't much more than a cash cow.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:19:25 PM

I whole heartly agree!!!!!!!!!!!!.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:15:51 PM

Are the camera fines cutting into the church donations? Separate church & state.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:09:11 PM

logic wins
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:08:03 PM

If they're not stopped, they'll just keep putting up cameras all over the place...
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:07:35 PM

Stop big brother from watching us and let real law enforcement officers write tickets!!!
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:06:45 PM

can they use those cameras to nail the drunk drivers
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:01:56 PM

Why ministers?

Speed cameras and ethanol in my gasoline formula should be abolished.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 10:01:12 PM

They used cameras here in Ontario for a while and then pulled them all out. Too many problems. A lot of people were wrongly ticketed. So I agree with these ministers.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:58:51 PM

Why don't those nice parishioners just obey the rules of the road?
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:58:24 PM

I agree.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:56:37 PM

Another tax
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"another tax? " Bingo we have a winner!
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:54:28 PM

There has to be a better way.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:53:27 PM

If the ministers condone breaking one law what other laws is it ok to break???
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:51:28 PM

Everyone who says that speeding is wrong and illegal should take a long, hard look at whether or not those speed limits that they're talking about are appropriate for the design and condition of the road.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:50:19 PM

oh
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:49:23 PM

Speed cameras make roads more dangerous because people slow down for them and then speed right back up again.
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:48:44 PM

"they can't support their church because they're spending their time dealing with these tickets." Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! It's all about the money for the ministers, too!! Bwahahahahaha!!!!

Love it. Money, money, money, money. It's all about the money.

Pathetic!
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 9:44:34 PM

God bless these guys! ;-)
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