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NY records show history of oil, gas well problems

trib.com (AP) -- State regulators claim a strong record of oil and gas drilling oversight, but their own reports reveal thousands of unplugged abandoned wells and other industrial problems that could pose a threat to groundwater, wetlands, air quality and public safety.

Annual reports and incident reports prepared by Department of Environmental Conservation staff run counter to the agency’s long-stated assertion that the types of problems reported in other states have been prevented in New York by strong regulations.

The review comes as New York officials prepare to issue a decision on whether to allow hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, a lucrative method of extracting natural gas that has raised environmental concerns.

“Division of Mineral Resources annual reports over two decades show that the D


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Submitted Oct 01, 2012 By: teafortwo
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 11:00:42 PM

Thanks for posting T42.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:52:35 PM


Another good one Teafortwo.....

Follow-up on the unplugged and abandoned wells is extremely expensive; each must be inspected individually. If NY is smart they will require the Oil/Gas industry to put aside a percentage of their profits so the State can afford the plugging and inspections!
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 9:27:44 PM

so why have the sate not follow up
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 3:54:23 PM

Too many rules & regulations.
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Thank you for posting.
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These corporations must be regulated.
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 7:51:24 AM

No surprise...
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NY records show history of oil, gas well problems and what else will show up later that they do not know about now? Protect the groundwater, wetlands, air quality and public safety from unplugged abandoned wells, industrial activity and fracking. Encourage the public to report possible problems and have the state inspectors investigate legitimate claims.
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SSDD
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I10Express...I wouldn't be bragging about the Texas Railroad Commissions actions in the Oil patch. Texas is owned by Big Oil.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:14:46 PM

And to think, no fracking was involved!
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Fracking is the wrong method and a destructive method of extracting oil and gas from the earth. When are people going to open their eyes to reality.
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You have to obey the rules.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:02:46 PM

Two decades is way to long.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:00:46 PM

I'm not surprised - heard such stories before. Seen sites where massive pollution and/or contamination problems have just been "buried" - literally. Now, years later major bucks have to be paid for clean-up. And for everyone that has "surfaced", how many more sites out there are slowly leaking toxins into waterways, etc.????
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Got to do it right, or pay fines
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ok
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:54:09 PM

Another one of the many and gigantic costs of deregulation.

I think Ronald Reagan just wanted to loosen the reins a little - not throw them away. Reagan loosened. George Bush, Bill Clinton, and George Bush threw them away. It was nuts.

Remember that banking melt down we are still paying for? The banking regulators still had plenty of regulations to enforce, but since we cut their strength, they decided not to enforce anything. Once the crooks figured this out, the meltdown was inevitable.

How did the crooks figure it out? Well one crook, he was high up in Arkansas government, he bullied the regulators there to look the wrong way and got away with ROBBERY!!! Then it got leaked to the press when he ran for president, letting the crooks know.

So it wasn't deregulation. It wasn't a lack of manpower. It was a complete lack of ethics by people who refused to do their jobs.
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And somewhere there's a law that says you can't plant flowers on Sunday and that law will get enforced.
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Typical of any place, any time. There is no regulation except for Joe Average. He gets regulated to debt.
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who cares about regulation and safety when there's soo much money to be made
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As is typical, the regulations are there if only someone would enforce
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:40:04 PM

I am sure that the records are incomplete.
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Let's see the facts,
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What do you expect when there is a shortage of trained inspectors in an industry committed to getting as much profit with the least amount of cost.
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:34:20 PM

this should cause concern to people. The oversight needs to improve on closed wells
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hm
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so
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Bureaucracies are always truthfull.

Right.
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Of course they do.
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you can regulate the hell out of anything but if no one can police and enforce it ....then its just a piece of paper!
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:21:19 PM

It will be good for New York and good for America. Why do you think Middle East Countries are spending money to defeat fracking? The proposed regulations will get many of the improper abandoned well properly plugged and produce an energy source for America or one more step to energy independence.

[Edited by: bigdipperMS at 10/1/2012 10:23:53 PM EST]
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I SEE
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gubberment is all about spin and lobbyists
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The depth and breath of incompetence exercised in regulatory oversight of industry and the mitigation of environmental impact is astounding. When in retrospect we look at the impact of our collective stupidity in relying on local, state and federal agencies to protect us from industry and ourselves I have to wonder how the postmortem of civilization and the environment will read?
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OK
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More hype and distractions from the real issues.
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Lots of downside to fracking but the corporate-owned media rarely report it.
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AND YET THEY KEEP DOING IT.
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No surprise, but wish it wasn't so...
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We are in danger either way from one thing or another.
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Looks like New York need better enforcement.
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Cleaning Ladies are so expensive to multi million dollar operations it seems.
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Polluted water is not a very good thing.
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Why don't they show the history of Big Oil price gouging?!!?
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Don't you love the government's ability to manipulate truth?
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drill here, contaminate here!
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