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Natural gas could be cheaper, cleaner way to run a railroad

Houston Chronicle -- On a 300-mile stretch of railroad in the plains of eastern Alberta, a test train chugs across the landscape burning a fuel that once made sense only to environmentalists.

It runs on natural gas. And today, that makes sense to business leaders whose top priority is cutting costs.

Over the last two weeks, train industry executives and others have been talking more about natural gas, as meetings in Houston and Chicago highlighted interest in a fuel that could slash one of railways' top costs.

Representatives from major rail companies and related manufacturers met in private at a Houston hotel conference room last month to talk about how to push forward what could be the next great shift in train technology - a cataclysmic transition similar to the move decades ago from coal to diese


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 4:51:49 AM

if it can be done, then let's do it!
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 5:33:22 AM

good for them!
yardslave
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 5:04:37 AM

Ok...
VanIsleLes
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 12:25:37 AM

Give it a try
Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 12:02:18 AM

Natural gas can not be pumped into vehicles, by the average Joe... so much infrastructure would have to be addend... and then the price would rise... Hello people... don't buy the Kool Aide... do some real research.
RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 10:38:03 PM

Natural gas is a good thing. It would be great if we could utilize it to replace oil-based products for trains, buses, trucking, government vehicles (USPS) as well as all the cars the government has. Corporations like FedEx, UPS, etc. would benefit as well. The BIG problem is as many here have stated is that if we start to depend on it it WILL increase the price. Who is in control of it? Of course it's big oil that extracts it and they are the ones in control, but just like with oil, it is a commodity and will go on the commodity market and you know what that means. Yep, you guessed it "SPECULATORS".
Now, if only we could do something, anything to get the speculators under control. I know that a lot of folks here believe the reason we pay so much at the pump is due to speculation. I agree. Many here want to know why hasn't Obama done something about it? He has tried. Unfortunately every time he tries to push something through your representatives in congress block it. The CFTC (Commodities Futures Trading Commision) is responsible, but the Republican controlled House has done their best to neuter them. They have cut their budget and would be more than happy to dissolve it altogether. If you want to end all this speculator madness you need to get your Congressperson to do something about it or get a Democrat in their place.
my2002m
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:45:23 PM

It is till we start exporting it. Then we will all pay higher prices.
melvindale
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:19:57 PM

If all the ideas to use natural gas came to pass, then natural gas would become expensive.
judgemobile
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:10:37 PM

why not use the MOST NATURAL gas, of which there is an unlimited supply--human methane ?
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"From an air quality perspective, the science suggests that natural gas has significant benefits compared with other fossil fuels, but from a climate perspective more research is needed,"

So what fuel will the TreeHuggers vote for???
walkingtall
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:57:09 PM

Natural gas could be cheaper,cleaner way to run a railroad and don't worry natural gas prices are heading up this winter season.
rfm1892
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:50:34 PM

Hope it works!
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:47:42 PM

Just wait until the DemocRATs and the EPA ban fracking and see the price of natural gas skyrocket.
BAN_e10_GAS
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:45:17 PM

Go for it--WITHOUT SUBSIDIES!!!

Natural gas is from the North American continent.

Now, if we can just get something useful from the un-natural gas in D.C.

[Edited by: BAN_e10_GAS at 10/10/2012 9:47:20 PM EST]
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:43:00 PM

On Oct 10, 2012 8:28:50 PM, caravanguy wrote:

>As they talk about cheaper natural gas, the headlines here say
>that natural gas prices are going up this heating season.

A good bit of the cost of retail natural gas is in the transmission and distribution of it, and those costs aren't going down.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:42:25 PM

Ok
mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:41:46 PM

Could be. But then there'd be no smokestacks.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:32:31 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:30:10 PM

Lets use CNG to fuel our vehicles. Just need distribution system
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:28:50 PM

As they talk about cheaper natural gas, the headlines here say that natural gas prices are going up this heating season.
TDIdave
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:28:44 PM

Interesting.
caravanguy
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:27:56 PM

Don't worry the next administration and congress will work hard to mess it up if it makes sense.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:27:45 PM

Interesting.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:27:00 PM

Sounds good....NO tax $$$$$$$$$$$
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:23:26 PM

THIS IS A GREAT IDEA. NOW ONLY IF THE PRESENT ADMINISTRATION IN WASHINGTON DOES NOT SCREW IT UP.
mlmeng
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:22:53 PM

Since trains are mostly diesel electric means diesel engine generates electricity, a natural gas version of this make sense.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:21:25 PM

i don't see it powering trains or trucks
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:17:22 PM

hmm
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:16:44 PM

About time someone looked at the CNG option.
benjy
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:15:18 PM

I'd give it a shot....
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:14:20 PM

Go natural gas!!!
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:14:07 PM

maybe
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Good luck!!
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:08:25 PM

Do it
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:07:25 PM

hope it works
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:07:18 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:04:16 PM

Sounds Good To Me.., Natural Gas Is The Way To Go...
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 8:02:41 PM

Which will in turn skyrocket the price of natural gas.
hammer219115
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:57:32 PM

Oh,how helpful.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:57:21 PM

They can pull their own fuel tanks.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:52:34 PM

Once these guys are running on natural gas, the price to the consumer will go up significantly.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:52:04 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:51:26 PM

ok
ShutRBug
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:50:22 PM

Sure. Why not
PizzaMon
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:47:09 PM

Railroads don't seem to be over enthusiastic about this idea.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:44:44 PM

go for it
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:41:28 PM

sounds good to me
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:37:37 PM

Natural gas for me
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:34:18 PM

No doubt many idiots being paid insane money are clueing into this fact.

The world is all about kissing butt and not what you know.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:33:17 PM

Sounds good to me.
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:29:12 PM

natural gas a good way to go
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