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New CAFE Rules Anger Just About Everyone

Forbes - Dave Hurst, Contributor -- The Obama administration announced new fuel economy rules last week requiring that vehicles reach 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025. Typical of the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) rules, there are many credits offered for different types of vehicles based on their drivetrains, encouraging automakers to make and sell alternative drive and alternative fuel vehicles. The effort to tighten CAFE standards has been the epitome of government sausage making. The process required not only getting Republicans and Democrats to agree on something, but also getting environmentalists and, more importantly, auto manufacturers to agree on something that no party really likes. All of this makes for a very messy show, and it’s the biggest reason why from 1990 to 2009 fuel economy for cars remained...

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honda0105
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2012 6:49:47 AM

it could be done now if Pig Oil and car makers would not be so opposed to change.
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BEGTWO
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 6:53:07 AM

The car companies know they can do it!!!
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remay
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 5:51:10 AM

There shouldn't be ANY "anger", just ACCEPTANCE that it NEEDS to happen.
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sillywagon
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:08:53 PM

And in 2026 when you go to get your great fuel efficient vehicle repaired... when you see the bill, you will stutter... "but I thought I was supposed to save money with this gas sipping vehicle!!!"
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alterman156
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:38:25 PM

They should require cars to get better gas mileage.
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esq262
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:25:02 PM

I agree.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 5:01:57 PM

Don't anger me.
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SUV2009
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 4:37:50 PM

So gas prices will then be $10 a gallon so what will have changed nothing on my end same overprice car and gas to go in it.
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truvoice1
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 3:56:24 PM

Again, its Obama forcing his socialist European agenda on all of us. He wants the government to determine our driving and buying behavior; and if he can't get it done by legislation, he'll try to do it by executive order. Doesn't this remind anyone of a dictator?
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condé
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 2:56:13 PM

It is WE THE PEOPLE who will get the bun hole in the end.
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jimmy544
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 2:29:13 PM

If you get twice the mileage gas costs half as much. We already know what some of these cars will look like as some are here now.
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Cheepo
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 12:21:09 PM

Yes, angering me!!!! He will not last that long!!!!!!!!!!
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sch5v2
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 10:36:11 AM

Nope, not angering me.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 10:29:26 AM

Gonna end up knocking the floorboards out and Flintstoning that bad oscar.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:50:03 AM

Gotta be more efficient! We can't keep polluting forever!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:38:59 AM

by the time current administration will be gone for 10+ years?
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crep1291
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:32:33 AM

Don't know about you, but those new standards really don't anger me one bit.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:27:59 AM

I think its crazy to be tightening them now (it is tightening, right???...lose track of latest targets quickly) but remember this isn't as far fetched as some think like some saying at this rate take 2050 to reach this. Remember a) its based on old mpg testing methods that are 20% higher than what's used now b) there will be credits for technology to boost it & c) loopholes will abound, just like the current one of make gas-hungry vehicles flex fuel (no one can consistently use E80) & it won't count against your CAFE avgs.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:27:44 AM

In the 70s, market forces forced better gas mileage. Too bad know-it-alls in Washington cannot let people decide for themselves which is more important, mileage or safety.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:22:05 AM

no reason thay cannot - other than the push-back for people who hate change
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:18:46 AM

At the rate they are improving mileage they will reach the mandate by 2050
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:15:02 AM

BS!!!!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:14:31 AM

Many cars can get 50mph. now,we need to get a higher fleet avg. This will be good for all of us using less fuel used and more money in your pocket. If you want to pay out a hundred bucks every time you fill up good luck with that, fuel is not going to get a lot cheaper, no matter who is in the White House.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:12:23 AM

the oil greed never ends
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:11:24 AM

What are they worried about? 2025 is a long way off. They can either make the cars do it or they can lobby the next couple presidents to change the rules. No big deal.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:10:18 AM

lost tax revenue from the pumps will be made up for somewhere else
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:09:45 AM

If the car companies don't like I'm sure the gas companies hate it and will invest millions to derail it.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:09:02 AM

Just like congress will have to have a balanced budget by 2016. It will never happen. Mandate something far enough in the future so you wont be around to worry about it. Leave it to the next people in line to take care of it. Ain't America wonderful.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:08:23 AM

we may have to park all those limo's in Washington!!!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:08:19 AM

Scary to read obummer supporters comments here! Out of touch with the world!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:08:18 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:07:39 AM

ag9495, very well put. Thanks to vehicles that deliver high mpg (including hybrids, EVs, etc.), the gas tax dollars going to the feds & state govts have been declining. The politicians WILL find ways to make up that "shortfall", rather than cut their own wasteful spending. In short, we'll be paying, no matter what!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:07:10 AM

Interesting
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:07:04 AM

Good initiative. Gas will likely be $10.00 a gallon or more by then. A solution to higher pump prices is better mileage so you can drive a given distance without spending more per trip.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:05:13 AM

they should be high now i wont have to pay as much on gas
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:04:22 AM

WOW another political agenda item!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:03:33 AM

get over it
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:03:22 AM

Mitt the Twitt, will hate to see that!!!!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:02:44 AM

My 1980 diesel rabbit got 54 mpg in its time.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:02:19 AM

mberg, more than likely, the cost to get to the new CAFE standards will be higher that the cost savings from using less fuel. The rate at which gas prices have been going up the last 4 years, I don't even want to think about how much it will be in 2025. If these rules ever do make it to law, then the gas savings will probably never make up the extra cost that we will be paying for a new car.

Another issue to think about...we'll be buying less gas which means less taxes to the government, but they still wants our money, so we will be paying mileage taxes or something along those lines. The cost to drive in 20-30 years will be astronomical!
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:01:46 AM

Change is needed in desperately needed in November
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:01:07 AM

Yeah
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:00:57 AM

K
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slgas
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 9:00:52 AM

Evidence of leadership. The higher mpg figures are a great way to lower our costs for driving our cars. If you are against higher mileage, there are probably a few 1970-era clunkers you could probably find on used car lots.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:58:42 AM

We must fix this in November!
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mrpc90
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:58:22 AM

Shows how completely out of touch that the Obama administration is.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:57:46 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:57:39 AM

Romney will fix that too
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:56:56 AM

well, congress does have the power to repeal laws they passed.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 8:56:36 AM

Is CAFE settling realistic, achievable goals?
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