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Plasma Gasification Raises Hopes of Clean Energy From Garbage

New York Times -- David Robau tours the country promoting a system that sounds too good to be true: It devours municipal garbage, recycles metals, blasts toxic contaminants and produces electricity and usable byproducts — all with drastic reductions in emissions.

Mr. Robau, an environmental scientist for the Air Force, has been promoting a method that was developed with the Air Force to dispose of garbage with neither the harmful byproducts of conventional incineration nor the environmental impact of transporting and burying waste. It is one of several innovative techniques that the United States military has been researching to provide alternatives to the open-pit burns that some veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars say have made them ill.

Already some waste companies and cities like New York


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Sep 14, 2012 11:21:42 PM

we need more outside the box thinkers.
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eppylover
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 5:43:43 PM

If Big Oil can't cash in on it in a big way, look for it never to happen.
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MadTraveler
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 4:37:51 PM

Old - and still question economics of it.
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sparky808
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 1:35:45 PM

Thank you for posting.
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SparkieMi
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 1:37:16 AM

Interesting....
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Martinman
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Message Posted: Sep 13, 2012 12:13:06 AM

Several forum members have posted earlier that local demonstration projects have validated this recovery process.

The issue will be whether it is scalable to the large-scale commercial level *and* both still effective and profitable.
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crreed1
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:20:07 PM

sounds like BS
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rahcat
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:18:43 PM

Sounds good, but NO GONERNMENT SUBSIDIES.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:14:26 PM

when it sounds too good to be true, ....
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:13:18 PM

love those by products.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:12:58 PM

Cost effective?
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:12:55 PM

"blast toxic contaminants" ?
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:10:25 PM

Most toxic waste can be destroyed by high heat, pressure and added oxygen.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:08:04 PM

Big tax dollars to make this work.
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jem069
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:07:37 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 11:01:47 PM

Make gas out of garbage, great.....smaller landfills too.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:56:50 PM

The name of the process sounds extremely dangerous. Never mind the actual use of it. Please use common sense when burning garbage. Toxic waste is never easy to dispose of.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:56:41 PM

Good
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:53:21 PM

Hope they know what they are doing, remember sometimes the Air Force has their heads in the clouds!
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:50:13 PM

Ok
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achas
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:49:24 PM

GETTING RID O GARBAGE AND CONTAMINANTS CLEANLY - PRICELESS
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:48:55 PM

As mentioned, one of the by-products is hydrogen which can then be used for a hydrogen fuel cell to produce electricity which can then power my car!
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:47:46 PM

Would be all for it if it can be competetive and practical
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:47:08 PM

Just like so many of the "green" ideas, the cost is probably to much to make it worth it.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:46:10 PM

sounds great

[Edited by: Ahking at 9/12/2012 11:47:06 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:44:43 PM

the cost may be more than we can afford
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:38:28 PM

Get it into production soon!
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:38:18 PM

But whats the end COST going to be. It will NOT be used if it cost more, no matter what benifits we get from it!
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:35:36 PM

Just do it.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:35:29 PM

Sounds good.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:32:11 PM

I hope they can make it happen economically.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:30:08 PM

Sounds like a complex process - have this guy work on rebuilding the U.S. refineries.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:29:38 PM

Just toss some garbage into Mr. Fusion and you've got 1.21 jiggawatts of power for your Delorean. All of them come standard with the time traveling feature, but you have to do some work to it before it will actually reach 88 mph.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:29:13 PM

Let's get a few going & monitor the results. Get rid of trash, destroy dangerous contaminants, and produce electricity - all at the same time!
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:27:53 PM

The sweet smell of victory.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:26:43 PM

Interesting.....
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:26:15 PM

Sounds exciting.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:25:36 PM

Isn't technology amazing.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:25:18 PM

Enough already!
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:18:47 PM

Nature at work.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:18:35 PM

Yeah, the US will be the only to enforce this. Try to get China on board. Too costly for them. They prefer to pollute
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:18:26 PM

Clean energy from garbage? It's about time we make Congress useful for something.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:16:17 PM

Fine, just as long as taxpayer money is not funding another green boondoggle.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:15:53 PM

Keep working on the technology.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:11:25 PM

K
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:11:02 PM

Interesting article...
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:10:51 PM

OK.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:09:44 PM

Interesting - Might even let us start putting Corn on the table again
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:09:36 PM

It is an interesting article, but there are still many unanswered questions. We don't know the unintended consequences of this process yet like what other toxins are produced. At most right now, this technology will only be useful in reducing the landfill problem. We don't have data here on the net energy produced as it obviously takes considerable energy to process the garbage. The only thing it mentions is that it makes enough electricity to power the system rather than stating how much extra is produced. Also not mentioned is the cost.

I also have to agree with Mr. Hershkowitz in the article that they are "not even at the point where they should be thinking about waste-to-energy" because there is much more recycling to be done before this process is used.
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2012 10:09:32 PM

Go for it
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