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Report: Most biofuels aren't green

TG Daily -- Biofuels were under the microscope all summer in the U.S. due to drought-prompted concerns about the bite they can take out of food supplies.

Now they're under assault by the Swiss Federal Laboratories for Materials Science and Technology (EMPA), who've made the blunt assessment that "most biofuels are not green."

The researchers there say studied the full life-cycle impact of biofuels – looking at what the fuels consume, what they produce and what they cause, a concept Europeans call "ecobalance" – and found "only a few biofuels (have) an overall better ecobalance than petrol."

??The group notes: "According to the National Institute of Space Research, deforestation in the Amazon has declined sharply just as American biofuels production doubled.


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 4, 2012 11:00:59 PM

would be nice if we could get EtOH out of the "biofuel" category...
EvergreenON
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 6:35:11 AM

Drop out ethanol production
Blue48
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 11:49:39 PM

WOW!
jrsva
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 11:18:27 PM

Corn-based ethanol should have fared poorly in this study if they really took everything into account. First, the diesel fuel consumed to cultivate, harvest, and haul the corn and to haul the ethanol itself, then the petroleum-based fertilizer used on the fields and finally the reduced vehicle mileage realized when ethanol is added to gasoline. To complete the study they must include the increase in food prices due to the diversion of corn to fuel, the increase in vehicle maintenance caused by ethanol, and the water pollution caused by fertilizer runoff from fields. If the whole process is considered, ethanol will have a net energy value of close to zero.

flagtown25
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 11:15:19 PM

Absolutely not.
eblair54
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 11:13:42 PM

Interesting.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 11:13:19 PM

@rahcat, mind telling the rest of us what you think the EPA will do now?
rahcat
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 11:10:21 PM

Now that the truth is out, watch out for the EPA.
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 11:08:15 PM

Let's get one thing straight, @FlogNut. Envirionmentalists never advocated for bio fuels. You can thank the agriculture lobby for that. Deforestation in order to plant crops for bio fuels is one of the worst things people can do to the planet.

20% of the greenhouse gases emitted every year are from burning trees to clear land for farming. Not only were all those trees absorbing the CO2 in the air but burning the trees just released all of the carbon stored in the wood into the atmosphere.
phinsup67
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:56:51 PM

Ok
SparkieMi
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:54:57 PM

Time will tell.....
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:54:55 PM

Good article.
mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:54:27 PM

so is this green...light?
ExplorerWA
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:53:52 PM

What it's not green?
PizzaMon
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:52:03 PM

The truth will all come out eventually.
CCLighthouse
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:49:23 PM

I concur TNT2EC.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:45:10 PM

Well then ....
danol43
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:44:42 PM

No surprise
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:42:51 PM

really
abacus44
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:41:56 PM

This has been reported for years but the government bureaucrats never pay attention.
TNT2EC
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:41:13 PM

Not a surprise, just a way to use some waste oil.
suzmar
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:40:24 PM

Biofuels were always a lot of hype. The ethanol lobby did a great job, even though it has now been shown that ethanol is more expensive and uses more energy to producer than it saves, we still have the mandate.
qwerty17
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:40:24 PM

...they also come in many other shades.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:38:43 PM

More bunk from users of myths, not science. Assumptions all over the place without justification by facts.
big_mac64
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:36:18 PM

something I've been saying all along. glad to see a story about it, finally!
Shakleelady31
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:35:28 PM

Interesting.
g747
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:34:53 PM

Does it depends on the originality of the fuel source?
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:33:32 PM

It all depends on the source of the fuel.
30mpg80
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:31:46 PM

Don't care what color it is, just not from OPEC
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:30:20 PM

Another tree-hugger wacky tobaky pipe dream gone south...
driveonby1
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:30:15 PM

Makes sense; another government intrusion into the marketplace with little knowledge but lots of liberal frosting.
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:28:45 PM

One of the downfalls.
JR57CA
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:28:24 PM

DUH! As a rocket scientist, I could have told you this a long time ago. Better than petrol, by the way, is NOT saying much. Also, the consequence of depleting another "resource" to create fuel is no answer!

Azimuthal
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:27:22 PM

I agree, Biofuels are not green !!!
waynemustang
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:22:15 PM

The big lie of biofuels.
FreeeBee
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:20:51 PM

If you wear green glasses everything will be green. It is all for "green" after all..
GordoM
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:16:46 PM

Various studies have been saying this for a while now but the ethanol / alternative energy political / media juggernaut keeps rolling up your tax dollars. Apparently its image, not science that rules.
darkknight1
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:15:08 PM

not surprised
bkplenge
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:12:48 PM

A great reason to stop ethanol.
netman044
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:11:06 PM

Not that surprised but they are renewable
serrog
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:11:06 PM

Not surprised
CAroadrunner101
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:09:50 PM

now what...
blazerbob91
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:09:09 PM

So what else is new
FlogNut
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:08:45 PM

So I guess the environmentalists aren't saving the plant after all!
drobbbb
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:07:56 PM

ok
rf6480
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:02:54 PM

at least the ones allowed to make it to market
mrbee
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:02:46 PM

Of course.
SpankyMI
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:02:10 PM

Weird science?
CISA
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 10:01:49 PM

what a hoot!

next we'll find out the earth is cooling
Baron62nd
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 9:59:57 PM

Most green products are not green either.
Alfied
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2012 9:59:30 PM

Of course not. Another political myth.
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