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Solar development absorbing Calif. farmland

AP -- FRESNO, Calif. (AP) -- There's a land rush of sorts going on across the nation's most productive farming region, but these buyers don't want to grow crops. They want to plant solar farms.
With California mandating that 33 percent of electricity be generated from renewables by the end of the decade, there are 227 proposed solar projects in the pipeline statewide. Coupled with wind and other renewables they would generate enough electricity to meet 100 percent of California's power needs on an average summer day, the California Independent System Operator says.
And new applications for projects keep arriving.
Developers are flocking to flat farmland near power transmission lines, but agriculture interests, environmental groups and even the state are concerned that there is no official acc


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Submitted Feb 03, 2013 By: mastermariner
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scorpiogg
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I don't believe
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ExplorerWA
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 10:59:55 PM

I don't believe it can meet 100 percent of their average summer day.
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 10:04:33 PM


I wonder how many acres are being taken out of production by Oil/Gas production and pipelines?
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 8:31:16 PM

The sun warms the earth no matter.
Human beings harness what is natural. Yes, it's hot on the reflectors. Think what that heat would do to the earth otherwise.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 4:57:20 PM

Absorbing all that energy from the sun sounds like a contribution to global warming to me!
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goldrose1
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No good rules for decision makers.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 4:26:12 PM

Everyone wants to get a piece of the solar subsidy action.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 2:51:51 PM

Yes there are a few solar farms proposed for Fresno County.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 2:10:02 PM

Bad news for farms
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:22:15 PM

streetcars: "All the roofs just soaking up all that solar energy and then you have to suck up electricity to cool the space below..."

Agreed. There is plenty of land already being used that could be put to dual use out there. Rooftops and parking lots could be included with that, along with the land already taken up by transmission lines. In addition, the aqueducts could be covered over to reduce evaporation, and then panels placed on top of them. Highway rights-of-way come to mind, too. Lots of creative solutions like these are available besides taking up agricultural land.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 10:17:06 AM

so much for the amber waves of grain, now we have the flat panels of black
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 9:35:54 AM

Waste of good soil.
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Radar1992
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 8:32:39 AM

You can't eat electricity....

[Edited by: Radar1992 at 2/3/2013 9:32:49 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 8:23:01 AM

200 prime farmland acres now in solar panels in Davidson just north of Charlotte. Solar power and no food. What a plan!
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Kind of like ethanol isn't it.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 8:03:32 AM

Go with clean solar power!!! Most farmland in California is irrigated with much of that water coming from the already over allocated Colorado River.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 7:57:33 AM

The is money there.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 7:53:44 AM

Everyone is jumping like jackrabbits to "obey" mandates. What is the problem with sheeple. Can't anyone say NO.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 7:46:38 AM

More and more crappy leadership screwing up the people of California.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 7:45:55 AM

Need to build big solar farms in the desert areas
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 7:14:29 AM

killing green to make green????????????
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 7:04:06 AM

Some farms make great money from cell tower site leasing too

Each farmer knows the balance that is necessary to maintain the viability of their farm.

Harvesting sun power can be quite lucrative right alongside of growing crops, because there's no on site pollution produced

Try that with a coal, gas, nuke or oil plant
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:48:20 AM

They need to look into using some of the less productive lands, even if it means building new infrastructure for transmission.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:42:55 AM

solar is such a waste right now

[Edited by: humblepie at 2/3/2013 7:43:45 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:40:46 AM

Well that is one way to control non-green cards from farming.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:23:35 AM

It is amazing that some cannot learn and realize conditions. There is always a cost, and this one is going to be heavy.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 6:09:48 AM

forgive them lord, for they don't know any better
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 5:42:05 AM

The end result - fewer farming jobs in California and higher food prices for everyone. Then we can import more lead laden food from China.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 4:57:50 AM

Good.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 3:52:41 AM

I wonder how many of these will go bankrupt and take public money with them.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:59:45 AM

texasvet = Ditto although it is better use than shoppingmalls
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:53:56 AM

The Day The Earth Stood Still, Logan's Run, Soylent Green, Mad Max all in one when you take away the production of foods, just so that you have the energy to create production.....sounds ironic!!
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:39:29 AM

....are there not enough buildings to put these on the roofs of there??

We won't be happy until we starve ourselves, with some of the world's BEST farmland, wasted with shopping centers, suburbs, and the like..

*grrrrrr*
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:33:30 AM

Texasvet nails it down very well!!!!
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:31:45 AM

Tough choice eat or have electricity.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:31:39 AM

Okay
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:30:13 AM

ok.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:26:52 AM

They may have power but won't have food, what a trade off....
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:22:22 AM

Tax exempt business???
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:22:02 AM

don't waste farm land
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:20:00 AM

Good more oil for us
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:18:29 AM

The law of unintended consequences strikes again. California is heading toward more brownouts and blackouts and they'll blame everything but themselves. Meanwhile, taking farmland out of service will increase food prices nationwide.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:15:32 AM

This is green?
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:14:20 AM

Who will grow the food for California and it will cost them.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:13:39 AM

If it's solar Obama must be in on it.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:13:37 AM

Great plan, absolutely terrible execution. More energy from alt fuels is a great plan, but not at the expense of vital US food sources.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:11:52 AM

we cant afford food anyway.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:11:12 AM

Good;but nothing new in Canada.
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:10:51 AM

How stupid
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2013 1:08:23 AM

there must be a better way than this
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