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Solar power boom fuels increase in hazardous waste sent to dumps

Associated press -- SAN FRANCISCO - Homeowners on the hunt for sparkling solar panels are lured by ads filled with images of pristine landscapes and bright sunshine, and words about the technology's benefits for the environment — and the wallet.

What customers may not know is that there's a dirtier side.

While solar is a far less polluting energy source than coal or natural gas, many panel makers are nevertheless grappling with a hazardous waste problem. Fueled partly by billions in government incentives, the industry is creating millions of solar panels each year and, in the process, millions of pounds of polluted sludge and contaminated water.

To dispose of the material, the companies must transport it by truck or rail far from their own plants to waste facilities hundreds and, in some cases, thousands o


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Hmm..
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Interesting
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So what. It may not be perfect, but it is better.
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Old
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 11:17:41 PM

Every used lube oil is considered a hazardous material and takes special handling. The same can be said of fuel products. Nothing new here folks just move along.
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more proof government should STAY OUT of private sector.
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Not good.
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Anything again.
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Huh?
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alwas some
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 11:08:04 PM

Funny how to get nice, clean, green, shiny things, all of the toxic and dirty byproducts are swept under the rug. Never to be mentioned, again.
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ALWAYS SOMETHING
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And I thought that was a sonic boom or the Korean nuke test - - -
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good and bad ....
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What is the golden answer?
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There has got to be a better way!
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Every product has a downside.
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Nothing is easy.
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Seems to be that we are not trying to resolve anything here. When are we going to be more serious about our situation and stop trying to short change the people and brown-nose the government?
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Not another case of unexpected consequences! When will it end?
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one step forward, two steps back
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The greens will see nothing, hear nothing and say nothing.

That is because they KNOW nothing.

Green is red.
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:52:42 PM

I must be living in a bubble. Have never heard of any toxic material connected to solar panels. How green is green?
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Might be true, but I would be more worried about all the nuclear fuel rods stored at nuclear plants with no place to recycle them, YET!
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this stuff doesn't just disappear... out of sight out of mind is not necessarily a good thing
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:48:06 PM

"Producing solar is still significantly cleaner than fossil fuels. Energy derived from natural gas and coal-fired power plants, for example, creates more than 10 times more hazardous waste than the same energy created by a solar panel, according to Mulvaney." in the full article, not as sensational as the first few paragraphs.
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Another wonderful by-product of "green" energy, just like ethanol causes more problems than it solves.
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As long as it is properly disposed of thats fine.
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Nice try.
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leave it to the liberals to make it worst then what we got.
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:39:37 PM

If they want to count the fuel used to haul the waste away then let's do the same for all fuels used to mine coal and bring NG to your home. NG first because it is easier. Got to FERC Form 2 for any gas pipeline and you will see that on average 15% of all natural gas (about 3 trillion cubic feet) is used for compressor fuel or is lost and unaccounted for each year.

Then let's compare Western Region (Wyoming ,Montana, Colorado Utah) coal. From the ICC annual reports for railroads Western coal uses an average of 4 gallons per ton for transportation to power plants. Now going to the 10-K's of the producers you will find that they buy 1-1.5 gallons of diesel per ton mined. So at 578 million tons, the US used just under 3.6 billion gallons of diesel for extraction and shipping western coal. That figures to be about 90 million barrels of crude at a marginal cost of $110/barrel Or about $9.5 billion dollars worth of foreign crude. And they talk about solar waste.

[Edited by: nsdp at 2/11/2013 11:41:04 PM EST]
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This message brought to you by your friends at BP and the Oil, Gas & Coal industries .... :0\
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wow
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There is always a bad side to everthing that is good. WHAT!
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Not all that glitters is gold, apparently!
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There is always a negative about any eco use!
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Duh!? And they've got mercury in them thar florescent s.
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So NoBama's push for "clean" solar is actually another plot to poison the environment and kill more Americans...
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everthings gonna have waste
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:23:59 PM

Thats the dirty side of solar.
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waste is always a problem
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:22:52 PM

I do not support government backing of ANY energy source, from wind to solar to coal to oil.
However.....
It is interesting how far down this paragraph was:

"The roughly 20-year life of a solar panel still makes it some of the cleanest energy technology currently available. Producing solar is still significantly cleaner than fossil fuels. Energy derived from natural gas and coal-fired power plants, for example, creates more than 10 times more hazardous waste than the same energy created by a solar panel, according to Mulvaney."
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That gives Uncle Sam something new to tax, Solar Hazardous Waste???
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:18:01 PM

ok
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Just great
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Seems like the work of algore again.
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Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 10:07:48 PM

I read this one earlier... gross! Now I have to eat, lol!
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OK
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Complex, eh?
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This sory must have been by an oil baron.
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