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Supporters of higher-ethanol fuels frustrated

Press Connects -- JOHNSTON, IOWA — When President Barack Obama moved into the White House in 2009, E15 -- a higher blend of ethanol and gasoline than commonly available -- was thought to be a sure thing.

But the Environmental Protection Agency took a year to approve the higher blend, then another year to write the rules that will govern sales. Now, three years later, the only drivers who can put more than 10 percent ethanol in their tanks are about 10 million owners whose models can use up to 85 percent ethanol.

Legal and bureaucratic delays mean E15 is still out of reach for consumers, and a potential 7 billion gallon expansion of motor fuel market share remains elusive for ethanol producers.

“The oil companies just don’t want to give up another 5 percent of the market to biofuels,” said President Jeff


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2012 4:51:24 AM

in times of pending food shortage / rising food costs, EtOH should be pulled out of gasoline.
sparky808
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 12:19:51 PM

End the mandate.
crep1291
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 11:27:11 AM

Consumers should be given more choice.
SycamoreISU
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 10:57:03 AM

Perhaps the powers that be refuse to understand that most consumers don't want more ethanol in their fuel.

Food should fuel living beings, not motors!
jeffbone
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 9:39:25 AM

"Legal and bureaucratic delays mean E15 is still out of reach for consumers, and a potential 7 billion gallon expansion of motor fuel market share remains elusive for ethanol producers."

Sounds like a feature, not a bug.
pbug101
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 4:39:01 AM

ok
runinoutagas
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2012 1:18:36 AM

The really frustrated ones are those that would like to continue being able to afford to eat.
Ahking
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 11:05:43 PM

there is not enough food especially cheap food.
DCbeachbum
Champion Author South Carolina

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:51:51 PM

Go back to real gasoline. I just found out that real gasoline is in my area for $4.10. I am willing to pay the the difference for better gas milage and performance for my vehicle.
tobasco
Champion Author Los Angeles

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:44:21 PM

Lose the subsidy. If you can't make it on your own, then too bad. Stop force feeding.
Amtrgas
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:42:19 PM

Ethanol is a BUST. Forget about it, and move on
Dodge_Me
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:42:12 PM

Looks like Obama is doing us a favor with all the delays with E15, Thanks!
justmedc
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:38:04 PM

ok
Focus2
Champion Author Illinois

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:34:57 PM

Seems an awful lot of people are against ethanol. Too bad, they didn't all voice their concerns about it to their congressman and make it a political issue. We need our freedom back. Many of us don't have a choice at the pump and there is the "mandates" we need to get rid of! We don't need laws making them produce more ethanol that we don't need, so it is being exported! With the drought and corn drying up in the fields and prices rising, maybe that will be the end of ethanol profits? Either way, we get stuck at the store as everything is going up and up!
hlscaldera
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:28:46 PM

no more ethanol...
bowler360
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:26:55 PM

whew.
abcdMA
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:26:41 PM

food is not fuel
gilfarm
Champion Author Alabama

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:25:31 PM

BAN E15!!!
clermont40miles
Champion Author Cincinnati

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:23:22 PM

Feed zee korn to zee aneemalz not zee karz.

Green is red.

Forced ethanol is stupid. It ought to be volutary.

Mandates - the lifeblood of bureaucracy. Very Progressive.
camaro_man
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:21:05 PM

wow
SierraFaith
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:19:00 PM

Ok
blazerbob91
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:18:41 PM

Stop ethanhol particulally now with the drought.
diabloMN
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:18:20 PM

will i have a choice at the gas station?
ManBat12
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:15:42 PM

ok
my2002m
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:14:44 PM

I don't want any of it. Stop making it.
toadNY
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:12:39 PM

WOW it didn't take that long to pass obama care! Which 63% or so are against.
mrbee
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:10:49 PM

Good! No ethanol.
granitestater
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:08:43 PM

Isn't the corn crop going in the tank a bad idea?
bonzoonfmb
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:06:10 PM

Please don't do this to the U.S. consumer.
OntheroadagainVA
Sophomore Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:05:08 PM

Let them stay frustrated!

Ethanol gives lower mileage, takes energy to produce (arguably more than it yields), raises the cost of food, and is bad for engines ....

esq262
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:04:59 PM

Ethenol need to die a quick death.
EducatedShopper
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:04:56 PM

Get rid of the d@@# thing
bvrbill
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 10:01:42 PM

No more ethanol.
menagerie1013
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:57:34 PM

Get rid of ethanol. Consumers do not want it.
WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:53:43 PM

This is good. Get that garbage out of our fuel tanks. Let's put that corn back onto our tables and bring down our food costs.
camel1
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:53:30 PM

It is not so much the oil companies as it is we consumers do not want E15. Most of do not even want E10!
Godozo
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:53:28 PM

I have this theory that E10 exists because without it we'd be running low on gasoline. If one assumes that the Ethanol portion of the fuel incorporates energy from Hydroelectric, Nuclear, Wind, and Coal sources, what we're seeing is a 10% extension of our Gasoline stocks – and if you think your Expedition costs a lot of money to fuel now, imagine how much that thing would cost if we were suddenly stuck with but 90% of the gas we have on hand.

Shift it up to E15, and you have another five percent extension of our Gasoline stocks. Yet more a subsidy of fuel – that much more we'd have to pay if every station had to go E0 (instead of having to go E15).

If we were stuck with E0 nationwide, we'd have to REALLY consider investing in mass transit because a whole lot more people would be unable to afford gas. We'd probably also have better food as much of the farmland being used for corn would be used for raising vegetables.
OOXXFF
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:52:09 PM

Good.
pecos
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:48:44 PM

Ethanol was NEVER the answer.
Jeffro61
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:42:33 PM

I wouldn't buy that crap.
Dennisjk
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:38:10 PM

Most consumers don't want that crap.
cupboy
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:37:52 PM

Ban corn farming in the USA: problem solved.
pbug101
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:37:11 PM

ok
Blue48
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:36:04 PM

AH..TOO BAD! I DON'T WANT IT!
VanIsleLes
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:35:15 PM

Complications
sneadmd
Sophomore Author Dayton

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:32:36 PM

Interesting
125MPDay
Veteran Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:32:33 PM

*
The EPA is out of control. I should be able to pick E10, E15 or PURE GAS. In VA its regulated to E10 because basically Northern VA is so smoggy according to the EPA. So punish the whole State - typical Gument!!!!

Here in VA the Gas Spouts are regulated!!! Think I'm kidding?
http://www.ezpourspout.com/gascanorder.html
Its crazy! As I spill gas everywhere trying to use the EPA regulated spout that literally takes THREE HANDS; I smell like gas, My shoes smell like gas, the GROUND smells like gas - BUT I'm glad the EPA is protecting ME!!! Can you say "Idiots" boys n girls...

At least the typical Gument Stonewalling is working for the Public FOR ONCE!!!

[Edited by: 125MPDay at 7/22/2012 10:36:30 PM EST]
suzmar
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:30:37 PM

Good, I hope it stays out of reach, 10% ethanol is too much!
RooieOH
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:28:36 PM

?
comprof
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:28:19 PM

The incompetents or idiots who put ethanol into fuels knowing it did engine damage and would lead to drastic increases in food prices, which hurt the poor and middle class worst, should be flogged daily and publicly at a whipping post.

[Edited by: comprof at 7/22/2012 10:29:39 PM EST]
nimpy
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2012 9:24:53 PM

corn is for food not for fuel
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