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Ten Reasons Why Fracking is Doomed

OIL Price -- Proponents of natural gas fracturing and oil drilling are delirious with joy over the ability to recover shale gas, which has brought down world gas prices and made the US a major player again. Likewise, North Dakota wells are set to produce up to 800,000 barrels of oil a day soon. (Although, since the world uses roughly 89 million barrels a day, and the US uses a fifth of that, and demand in Asia will likely spike in coming years, the ND addition is just not that much).

Fracking is dangerous to ground water purity, and both oil and gas, as hydrocarbons, contribute to global climate change, which is a dire threat to human well-being in coming decades and centuries.
But oil and gas triumphalists have another thing coming. It is that the cost of generating electricity by wind and solar is f


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Submitted Jul 27, 2012 By: mastermariner
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 11:45:15 PM

Well Sammy....We need power diversity. The fist time you can't draw a deep clean breath or drink your water....I wanna hear your comments!
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 10:32:04 AM

Alrighty then
remay
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 10:04:27 AM

Some pretty good arguments in the article
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2012 12:58:54 AM

All the countries mentioned are motivated to build their alternate energy infrastructure.
PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:48:20 PM

Fracking is doomed only if they continue to fight against using safer and less toxic methods. There is no "safe way" to generate energy, but there are many ways to make it safe enough for most people to accept. Fracking has relied too heavily on the payments to politicians to do their bidding, which is a bad business practice.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:17:26 PM

When I read the title of this article, my first thought was "I could narrow it down to ONE reason: EPA"
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 4:48:29 PM

That's right GatorGuy! Diversify!

We need to use oil, natural gas, coal and nuclear!
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 3:38:26 PM

That great, we need to diversify-not rely on any single energy source.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 1:40:27 PM

This is good news. Send the frackers home to poison their own water instead of other people's.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 11:55:24 AM

t.Boone loves it.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 11:54:54 AM

More gloom and doom fro those that comprehend nothing including how to install a light buld and flipping the switch to see if it works.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:56:13 AM

We'll see.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:40:46 AM

Wow. The 'expert's projections' provided as 'fact' in the this article are a genuine house of cards. With data coming out calling some of the claims of the anti-fracking crowd into question, the tone of the discussion gets a bit more shrill.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:24:01 AM

The article is garbage we could burn for energy.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:22:18 AM

goalie1950 and playtime, make excellent statements, we all need to be open minded!
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 10:02:10 AM

This is just to funny.

The right wing extremists are just tripping out right now, spewing what they consider to be "facts". What is funny is that a major oil company CEO admitted that fracking can cause some problems. Lets face it, NO process is without problems! But there are not problems every time or everywhere you frack.

Having said that, Fracking is anything but Doomed. It does enable us to reach oil & natural gas that we could not reach before. & it would be silly to think we can get buy with only one source of energy.

While left wing extremists want to go totally green, Right wing extremists will be left behind & jobless like steel workers if they don't embrace some change.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:57:14 AM

goalie1950, Excellent post!
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:55:56 AM

Whatever....
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:43:00 AM

Eleven should be because chicken little is running around yelling the ground is falling and twelve should be because the media tells you it is. Do your own research and then make up your mind instead of letting the media tell you what to think.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:37:37 AM

OK
357revo
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:34:53 AM

Fracking is safe, despite the wild-assed claims of greenies.

Global climate change is a myth, dreamed up by International politicians to justify screwing the industrialized nations of the world and trap them into paying 3rd world countries for worthless "carbon credits".
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:34:27 AM

To frack or not to frack, that is the question
357revo
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:32:09 AM

More claptrap from a renewable proponent.

If and when solar and wind become economically comparable to nuclear, oil, gas, and coal, I'd be happy to see them contributing to the economy. But I don't want them building the plants with taxpayer dollars over and above the investment tax credits given to any company [that's for all you idiots claiming that tax dollars are subsidizing fossil fuel plants... The "subsidizes" are no more so than other business investments, unlike the billions dumped down the black hole of poor investments by the DOE.]

And this says a lot, right out of the article: "two huge offshore wind farms off the coast of Norfolk (the eastern coast). Together, they will have the capacity to produce over a gigawatt of power (roughly one nuclear power plant’s worth)."

England is going to "invest" thousands of square miles in offshore wind farms, along with creating the infrastructure to get the energy to land, rather than build a single nuclear power plant that can fit into a fraction of one percent of the same space.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:31:59 AM

Sheer manipulation and speculation
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:28:32 AM

DrPepperTX: And the information isn't all in. The job of science is to exhaustively examine all issues - pros and cons- until a clear finding has been arrived at. The problem here is money speaks and, as always, the money interests speak louder.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:25:41 AM

What tha frack
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:23:10 AM

Fracking will never be safe. The process will always threaten ground water contamination but that will not stop it from being used with the greed for power. If the story is correct about wind and solar power becoming less costly to produce then that is a big plus to reduce the demand for oil and coal even though not a complete solution.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:21:25 AM

Pure Speculation.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:21:00 AM

Do not be bullied out of your common sense by the specialist, 2 to 1, he is a pedant. Oliver Wendell Holmes
I'm not sure if Juan Cole is a pedant or a blowhard but he sure doesn't think or analyse very critically on this subject.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:19:13 AM

AND THE WITCH HUNTS CONTINUE:

As more and more SCIENTIFIC studies are added to a growing list of studies showing the safety of hydraulic fracturing, the science denial crowd will overlook the science and continue to promote fear. Yelling "the water's on fire etc.".

They'll continue to chant the thoroughly debunked claims of Josh Fox "Gasland" propaganda.

And the latest from the purveyors of fear??? Insurance!!! Aha, this will be the nail in the trackers coffin! Oh wait...."Fracking-related losses have never been a covered loss under personal or commercial lines policies." - Nationwide Insurance Co.

So now it's water use eh? As each aspect of the witch hunt against oil and gas production is knocked down by science these yahoos will come up with something else out of the blue. Show me one state where oil and gas comapanies use more than a tiny fraction (far less than 1%) of the total water usage. While your at it show me a state that doesn't allow golf courses to use hundreds of times more water than drilling. You cannot, case closed.

You see, there is a huge amount of deceiving information spouted out to the public about hydraulic fracturing, a decades-old technology. Those who spread this misinformation are mostly preying on the public's fears, with an ultimate goal of forcing state governments to succumb to that fear and prevent or even ban hydraulic fracturing. We need to make sure that the discussion is productive, and that any rules are legitimately conceived. Fact must be sEPArated from fiction.

The most common claim talking point is that hydraulic fracturing contaminates ground water. This is baseless. Have you ever noticed that the critics who make that claim never provide concrete evidence? The reason for their omission? It is obvious why. After being used more than 1.2 million times there have been no confirmed cases of hydraulic fracturing contaminating water. None. Never. Ever.

As EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson said in April of 2012, "In no case have we made a definitive determination that the fracking process has caused chemicals to enter groundwater."

The three "smoking gun" cases that the anti-shale zealots were sinking their teeth into have proven false or based on very poor science. See Pavillion WY, Dimoch, PA, and Parker County, TX.

The latest fear mongering is "climate change" thru methane emission from hydraulic fracturing. Once again SCIENTIFIC investigation has shown the EPA using numbers that are overblown by 50%.

Oh and the "evil Halliburton Loophole" talking point! LOL, what a joke. This is the errant claim born out of the yellow journalism of "gasland", a proven fraudulent film by Josh Fox, that hydraulic fracturing is "exempt" from the Safe Drinking Water Act, thanks to an energy bill passed by Congress in 2005. The truth??? SDWA has been the law of the land for nearly 40 years, and at no point has it ever covered hydraulic fracturing. Why??? States already tightly and effectively regulate the process.

How can an industry be exempt from something that never covered you in the first place? But you hear this falsehood talking point most every time the subject comes up.

It is important to rely on facts and the science, not fear-mongering talking points
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:17:47 AM

interesting
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:17:23 AM

fail
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:16:22 AM

Blah blah blah
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:16:22 AM

Evaluate the source.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:15:55 AM

Interesting
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:15:24 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:14:42 AM

DID OBAMA WRITE THIS?
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:14:15 AM

More spastic hype from someone that doesn't understand the technology or the industry.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:14:11 AM


Just another sombody's opinion. No facts.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:13:54 AM

GET RID OF THE FRACKING LIAR IN THE WHITE HOUSE - RESTORE THE USA.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:13:10 AM

done with precautions in place fracking should be safe
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:13:05 AM

This article seems a bit twisted, maybe even slanted towards the renewables side. We'll see?
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:12:11 AM

The article is laughable! For every watt of solar electricity produced, you have to have one watt of conventional electricity generation to back it up. The sun doesn't shine at night and it does get cloudy, after all.

So thinking solar is going to replace conventional generation is just ridiculous!
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:11:48 AM

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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:10:42 AM

Then expect to pay people. We are doomed.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:10:33 AM

drill baby drill
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:09:15 AM

About fracking time
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Another useless top ten list.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2012 9:08:52 AM

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Fracking isn't doomed, it is the biggest Boom in Oil since they found oil in the Permian Basin! Most of our future Oil will come from fracking!

Oil and Water don't mix, they have been underground together for millennium and fracking has no affect on ground water.
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The fat lady hasn't song yet.
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More crap from the socialist left........
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