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The Dangers of Luxury Cars and GPS

ieee Spectrum -- On the road, we increasingly rely on imperfect computer systems

Spectrum editor Steven Cherry talks to contributor Robert Charette about the risks and implications of technologies that are meant to make driving better. Recently, a California Highway patrolman and his family died in a car crash when he was unable to stop his Lexus ES350 from accelerating. In New York state, incomplete GPS information has contributed to an increase of commercial truck accidents, which has prompted potential legislation. Charette discusses how these particular stories illustrate the automation paradox--the more human operators rely on computer systems, the less likely they'll be ready to respond when those systems fail.


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Submitted Dec 01, 2012 By: ExplorerWA
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52MPG
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 3:37:03 PM

To many distractions.
blupupher
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:53:36 AM

totally worthless blurb.
jethro5000
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 8:51:52 AM

I still set that a driver has to use his mind, can't totally rely on computers...
yardslave
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 5:44:32 AM

It's a computer. Some hardware and software.

Not a God......
tomok
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 4:07:15 AM

The Dangers of Luxury Cars and GPS and it all comes down to using common sense. GPS systems, programs and map updates are Not perfect. Do No rely on a GPS unit with your life! A GPS unit is only a navigational aid Not to be used as the last word on vehicle travel.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII!
yankeeriffraff
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2012 12:01:21 AM

A lot of the commercial truck accidents are caused by trying to get a 12 ft truck through an 11 ft underpass - doesn't fit.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:53:41 PM

They're not foolproof!
Tiernan
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:39:50 PM

Best not to depend on it solely.
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:11:27 PM

GPS is helpful but is also dangerous at times.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:04:38 PM

Trust, but verify!
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:02:39 PM

You have to use it intelligently
peridotgal
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:01:54 PM

GPS may work for some people but I have never found it to be useful. I do not own one of these devices but a couple of friends have them. Needless to say, more than once we have traveled in circles or in the wrong direction because of incorrect directional information in the device. My husband stills keeps an atlas in his car. Whenever we are traveling and stop for a break, we look for maps. There are many state run facilities that provide maps for free. AAA is also another good choice for travel. Family members have requested maps and current road information prior to taking a trip. The information has always been very useful. What happened if the GPS is stolen from your vehicle? A friend of mine has had two of them stolen from her van. Thieves are not likely to steal paper maps. Sometimes, the old ways are the better ways. It is not hard to learn how to read a map. It's also cheaper on the wallet.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 11:00:51 PM

Old News
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:52:33 PM

gas
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:51:59 PM

I always check out a map,first.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:50:25 PM

Hopefully Microsoft never writes the software to control cars.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:47:28 PM

Not a clear and present danger
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:46:53 PM

Bad hyperlink.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:46:46 PM

On the road? Try everywhere. You know your medical procedures are most likely controlled by Microsoft Windows???? That should be ILLEGAL.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:45:27 PM

True.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:41:31 PM

I use GPS daily and will continue.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:39:36 PM

I still don't trust GPS systems.
Once one of them wanted me to turn down a foot trail. Not happening in a 30 foot motor home. I like my paper maps, thank you.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:36:47 PM


The text shown above is all there is and the audio won’t play. Oh well, it is obvious that there is too much electronic jimcrackery in cars nowadays. Better to remove the distractions, leave the driver alone and let him drive.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:35:44 PM

Flaws of technology.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:35:37 PM

I think they are as bad as a phone for distraction.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:35:10 PM

Okay.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:32:41 PM

Interesting
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:30:07 PM

Still do not use cruise control though my cars have them. While driving you should be awake.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:27:08 PM

The driver still has to be alert.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:22:31 PM

Incidentally, regarding accidents involving commercial trucks.... the GPS map systems I'm familiar with do not differentiate between truck routes and non-truck routes. So a trucker could easily be directed to turn onto a highway not designed to handle a truck of his size.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:19:54 PM

you still have to drive the car
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:17:11 PM

Just wait till self driving cars hit the road. Less tech make better drivers.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:16:17 PM

Silly "journalists" let their computers do their writing for them.

All they care to hear is the problems. They never look to find the instances where the GPS helped.

The California highway patrolman died in a car with a low tech floor mat wedging the accelerator pedal. It happened in the same car, same floor mats, several days prior to his fatal accident.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:15:10 PM

next will be dangers of driving and full moons
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:14:02 PM

Just remember humans programmed and invented the technology
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:13:45 PM

Only as good as the dumb humans who rely on it
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:10:28 PM

Silly stuff technology!
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:10:06 PM

I find GPSs useful, but we need to remember that it is fallible and can be wrong.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:09:23 PM

Not again!!
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:08:47 PM

People should not follow GPS 100%.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:07:31 PM

I have a luxury car with radio and power windshield wipers.
CHEAPERBETTER
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:06:29 PM

And they want us to have a car that drives itself. I don't think so.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 10:03:12 PM

Want a laugh? Go to Google Maps, ask for directions between Wayzata, MN and Saint Paul, MN.

Then look at the directions -- especially what you are asked to do about mid-span on I-94 crossing the Mississippi River.
TornadoRed
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 9:58:56 PM

I can see how relying on GPS directions could lead to an accident, if one takes a turn that he wasn't supposed to and then tries to over-correct. This is more likely to happen where there are inadequate signs or signs that are themselves unclear.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 9:57:55 PM

I have seen too many glaring map errors to put complete trust in a GPS, they are just aids in navigation, not a solve all problems panacea...

I still use paper maps to pre-plan trips whenever possible.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 9:57:34 PM

Oh my!
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 9:54:36 PM

Interesting...
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 9:51:59 PM

The problem is that GPS systems that are built into the actual vehicle are updated less frequently than a stand alone or phone GPS. Part of the issue is that the built in systems are way too expensive to update.
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 9:50:54 PM


When the FAA investigates an aircraft accident, unless it was caused by an entirely unforseeable mechanical failure it always comes down to the pilot's responsibility, which is #1 above all else to maintain control of the aircraft. Telling the FAA that your navigation instruments were faulty does not cut it. It should be the same for a driver.

It's true that the convenience of electronic stuff is making us lazier. I'm astounded by store cashiers these days being unable to make change unless the cash register tells them how much to give back. What ever happened to training?
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2012 9:48:03 PM

PEOPLE NEED TO PAY ATTENTION
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They will have laws across the country shortly
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