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TransCanada’s Keystone Wins Right to Take Pipeline Land

Businessweek -- TransCanada Corp. won court permission to build part of its Keystone XL pipeline across several contested tracts of southeast Texas farmland to carry Canadian tar-sands crude to Gulf Coast refineries.

State judge Tom Rugg Sr. granted the pipeline company’s requests to take possession of the tracts under state eminent- domain laws after a hearing today in Beaumont, Texas.

“The statutory requirements for the issuance of writs of possession are now met,” Rugg said in a two-page ruling, after TransCanada agreed to increase the size and type of surety bonds it posted in the proceeding.

The landowners urged Rugg to deny TransCanada’s access to the disputed tracts, citing a Texas Supreme Court ruling last year that limits the condemnation powers that pipelines can use under state law.


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Submitted Sep 30, 2012 By: drpepperTX
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Oct 9, 2012 4:48:46 AM

hairsplitting or truly taking away?
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teenitup
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Lot of people don't understand the slicerette.
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slicerette
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Message Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:47:18 AM

When did an "Easement" to put a pipe four feet under come to mean "Take"

Oh, I remember it was the New York Times that used the word "Confiscate" instead of easement when the New York Times was leading the charge against the pipeline. But of course the New York Times said they don't take sides.

Just remember, after the pipeline is laid four foot under, the farmer can plant his corn and the rancher can graze his cattle over the pipeline because the land is still his, it is an easement!
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Yup! all the below!
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doctorindyj
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It's only going to get worse. Look up UN Agenda 21.
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pbear316
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 4:57:11 AM

Old news, but it still frosts me.
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tomok
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 3:47:17 AM

TransCanada’s Keystone Wins Right to Take Pipeline Land? What's wrong with this country, when an entity outside the US can take people’s land and get away with it!
Your Land is Your Land! As long as you pay the taxes, pay your mortgage and have been farming it for as long as you have - NOBODY has the right to take or use any part of Your Land without Your Approval!!! NOBODY! TransCanada Is a Bully and needs to be stopped, the pipeline needs to be rerouted, the judge needs to rule for the land owners AND get fired too! The US federal or state governments do Not have any right to the same kind of tactics as TransCanada or anybody else.
Big Oil will refine the crude oil at the Texas Gulf refineries and export the fuel to other countries that will pay more for it. Big Oil will build this pipeline and Nobody can say or do anything about it - Not Chucky, Not the affected land owners or anybody else. The oil pipeline from Cushing has already been approved, that pipeline will relieve the oil transportation bottle neck from there to the Gulf refineries.
There will be NO price reduction of fuel, at the pump, in the US from this oil pipeline.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
12/22/2012!
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Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 1:23:04 AM

Old news x2.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:07:47 PM

Old news.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:05:55 PM

sorry, landowners...eminent domain IS LEGAL
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Fourth day on a row?
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:03:58 PM

Eminent domain. Not a good term to lots of people!
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greedy
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ok
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It's all about the politics
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:57:23 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:56:55 PM

tough
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:56:17 PM

Not surprising - all big corp's have ways to bulldoze their way through anything and get what they want.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:50:54 PM

one small step for America, one giant leap for energy independents.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:50:07 PM

This is not a new concept, its been going on for decades.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:49:22 PM

Are they doing it again????
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:49:17 PM

This is good for some, bad for others.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:48:24 PM

this is an OK
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:48:12 PM

good
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:47:39 PM

Good for them.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:46:37 PM

this is a win for them!!!
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:45:37 PM

build Keystone here now!!
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:45:07 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:44:07 PM

no doubt it will go to appeal and the lawyers will continue to make lots of money for the attorney retirement funds. this can be tied up for years in the courts so nothing will be accomplished.

united we stand
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:41:07 PM

Interesting.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:37:59 PM

They can still bury the whole thing...
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:37:54 PM

Good, the landowner is being compensated and will not lose the use of his property, the pipeline runs underground and are much less obtrusive than giant overhead electric transmission towers.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:37:15 PM

Need the WHOLE thing!
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:33:33 PM

old news
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:33:33 PM

Bad old news.
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This article is stale already.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:31:02 PM

Scary someone can just come cry emmine domain and you take your possession.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:30:17 PM

Great!
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:28:39 PM

Okay
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:21:34 PM

You are right gumbyrex, and in this case almost a half million dollars was not enough for an easement to this landowner.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:19:14 PM

I guess the refineries are not complaining.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:18:18 PM

Interesting article...
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:17:47 PM

And the farmer gets the shaft again.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:17:18 PM

Whoever owns the land should be compensated.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:15:55 PM

k
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:10:44 PM

go for it, just don't sell the oil to the Chinese
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:07:55 PM

This pipeline is good for only "BIG OIL"! Canada needs to get their oil to port so it can be sold for a higher price... nothing else. We the USA will pay the price... Already there are farmers paying the price through eminent-domain! The pipe line is a bad deal.
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Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:07:02 PM

little guy loses again
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Wonder what they are paying to cross someones land???
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Just build it!
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