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TransCanada says Keystone XL will not affect climate

CBC News -- In a shift in strategy, the company that wants to build an oil pipeline from western Canada to Texas said Tuesday that the project will have no measurable effect on global warming.

Canada represents just 2% of global GHG emissions, therefore, the oilsands represent only 0.1% of it.

Opponents say the pipeline would carry "dirty oil" derived from tar sands that requires significantly more energy to produce than conventional crude oil and emits up to 20% more GHG.

Michael Mann, a climate scientist at Pennsylvania State University, said the comments appeared to be based on "some rather rosy assumptions" about oilsands production.

First, the calculation does not take into account the energy cost of refining and transporting the crude from oilsands, nor does it account for


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tomok
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 11:57:46 PM

TransCanada says Keystone XL will not affect climate, the project will have NO measurable effect on global warming? REALLY? No Measurable Effect On Global Warming? AMAZING! The project will have minimal effect but burning that oil will.
Canadian Oil transported to the refineries on the Gulf Coast will be refined into fuel and sold on the world market for higher prices. There will be no cheaper fuel prices in the US or Canada.
The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! The price at the pump needs to go down to $2/gallon - *$3, *$3.50/gallon or *$4.00 is Not the new low!
More Refineries are Not the answer, Stop exporting fuel is!
Take care of the domestic fuel market first and above all else!
Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 11:22:03 PM


If only a more neutral person was interviewed rather than, Alex Pourbaix, TransCanada's president for energy and oil pipelines, the article might have some weight.

As it stands when Pourbaix says, "...opponents of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline have grossly inflated its likely impact on emissions of greenhouse gases that contribute to global warming." He destroys his credibility.
LWB_Sr
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 8:55:24 AM

"It is more likely the hot air emanating from DC is the real climate changer to be feared because it is far more polluted than A bombs or pipes laying covered in the ground."

Excellent Quote, cssco!
rjr54
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 6:45:10 AM

So we should build the Northern Gateway pipeline instead. And ship our oil to China.
rjr54
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 6:45:00 AM

I don't think the USA actually wants our (Canadian) oil.
Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:16:23 AM

On Feb 20, 2013 11:53:36 PM, cssco wrote:

>Well, the world experienced a couple of A bombs
>dropped on Japan at the end of WW-II

Conventional high-explosive bombs were also quite efficient at making Germany and Japan into a place where no stone was left standing on top of another one. The A-bomb did have a greater "shock and awe" value, however. They're so darn efficient that nobody has since dared to use an A-bomb in combat again.


[Edited by: Sneakers55 at 2/21/2013 1:17:20 AM EST]
cssco
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:53:36 PM

Well, the world experienced a couple of A bombs dropped on Japan at the end of WW-II so, my guess is a pipe laying in ground like a dead man surely will not be any worse. It is more likely the hot air emanating from DC is the real climate changer to be feared because it is far more polluted than A bombs or pipes laying covered in the ground.
kgbellman
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:52:48 PM

If it can be done safely, I'n fine
miteybear
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:31:17 PM

it shouldnt
AnObserver
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:29:52 PM

Seems like a reasonable assertion
tedjm1
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:27:35 PM

Where is the truth?
Glock26
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:25:00 PM

Sounds kind of self serving to me!!!
Zonk
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:24:59 PM

Who knows?
unclenorman
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:24:52 PM

Poorly thought out as usual!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
crreed1
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:20:38 PM

sounds like more old news
danreino
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:20:26 PM

The sun controls the climate.
10k
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:19:58 PM

common sense people: how in the h*ll is a pipeline going to affect the climate ??..

algoreaphobia is still running rampant..
rahcat
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:19:45 PM

Oh my........the EPA won't like this.
mlmeng
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:19:24 PM

It will eventually be built. The US Government will make it a "painful process."
regout
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:19:24 PM

What are they waiting to do it instead of talking about it.
mad_low
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:18:57 PM

Pfffttt ... the company says. What's next? McDonalds says fast food is healthy and RJ Reynolds says cigarettes cure cancer? Give me a break. No one can be that gullible.
judgemobile
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:17:10 PM

Bummer will not like this...
yakstar
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:15:44 PM

only time will tell...
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:15:20 PM

Good...get this project going...
DEG
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:14:54 PM

The pipeline should be built.
9C1
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:14:06 PM

hey have a bridge too
jkpsr
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:13:42 PM

Let them wreck their own environment.
jim27106
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:13:20 PM

so why no just refine the oil in Canada? "The province also has imposed a carbon tax, an action the Obama administration has said it will not propose."

I think we should okay the pipeline, but ban export of the gas.
ican2step
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:12:08 PM

Okay
jdevlin
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:10:16 PM

OK
naspa
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:10:08 PM

What were they going to say?
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:09:46 PM

True
pa79th
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:08:32 PM

Old news leftover from yesterday!
Piggy1959
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:08:29 PM

I thought the courts down here were ready to shut down that company anyway!
rjr54
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:07:57 PM

I don't think the USA actually wants our (Canadian) oil.

So we should build the Northern Gateway pipeline instead. And ship our oil to China.

Perhaps the USA wants to buy from Iran instead.
drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:06:56 PM

Last time I checked a pipeline did not affect climate anyway.
jobo74
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:06:16 PM

just get it done
camaro_man
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:05:57 PM

Build it.....
N5EXY
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:05:42 PM

I found a study a week or so ago that says the sun affects global warming. Imagine that.
ManOfLeisureII
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:03:24 PM

Just build the dang thing, already.
Rageagainsttm
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:02:45 PM

That sounds fair.
gasmack
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 11:02:13 PM

Some body is blowing smoke, or is that GHG?
mia3bxs
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:59:04 PM

Who says?
sydb7
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:58:20 PM

Why not use the oil in Canada?
Robert44
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:58:19 PM

All right. Lets go drill!!!!
badharley
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:58:12 PM

Just get this done.
floridakeys
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:56:57 PM

There is NO such thing as man made global warming. This about power and control this will separate you from your money
WanderDan
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:56:30 PM

they can ship it out their own ports
Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:52:06 PM

Southrob... end the madness and start posting comments with some real thought!

dhan... get real!!!
Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:50:34 PM

Libertyut... RIGHT ON!!!

Global Warming is a FARCE!!! So many are drinking that stinky kool - aid.
Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 10:49:07 PM

Brew9... very insightful comment! "ok" seems so "deep". Care to share a REAL comment with some thought behind it!
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