honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 6:40:17 AM
OOXXFF: me too.
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1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 7:51:35 AM
this a great day in history
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DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 8:05:25 AM
If there's a spill, things could get ugly quick.
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 2:09:45 AM
US Senate passes bill to permit gas pipe in Alaska's Denali park? “Take advantage of the existing utility corridor, preventing disturbances to wildlife and environmental impacts on undisturbed lands further to the east or west of the park boundary.” That says it all! Not only will it be less cost to build but less of an impact on wildlife and the land. Make it so! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:43:45 PM
That's Lisa's story and she's sticking to it!
A shame as it defeats the whole puppose of our Denali National Park. Now some scheming Canadian pipeline corporations will pull an end play and piggyback on to this to get caustic Alberta tar sands bitumen to a sea port and on its way to China. How does this all benefit All of us in the USA?
[Edited by: NHLiveFree at 1/4/2013 12:45:24 AM EST]
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Zonk

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:28:23 PM
Build the pipeline. Make sure all seams are COMPLETELY sealed.
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naspa

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:20:26 PM
How about not building one at all.
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boatfloyd

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:13:47 PM
More Pipes.
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mfeldstein

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:12:24 PM
Bad, bad move.
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wshokie12

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:10:42 PM
Good.
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:08:33 PM
Once again everyone, understand that "Drill, baby, drill!" is code for "Export, baby, export!" Liquified natural gas is selling for a premium on the overseas market. The customers in this country won't see one BTU of that natural gas.
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N5EXY

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:07:58 PM
More pipe dreams.
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Jmac2008

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:07:27 PM
good, if it already follows other utilities.
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RichWLIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:05:36 PM
Why not?
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Aviator_Rob

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New York
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:04:34 PM
I don't know if burying a gas line is such a great idea in Alaska. The permafrost is melting and causing the land to buckle and sink. Roads out there are starting to look like roller coaster rides.
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:04:23 PM
Amazing, the Senate actually did something right.
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CDMAuto

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Connecticut
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:03:04 PM
Old news
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Ferdman17

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:02:58 PM
Gee let's see if it really happens.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:02:42 PM
okay
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Chris46

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:02:38 PM
Go for it.
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cheaper0ON

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:01:48 PM
Hmmm...
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PrinceLH

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:01:45 PM
Amazing!
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skybiker

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 11:00:25 PM
Great!!
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Buddy2264

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:52:17 PM
Seems the best move for now, since it is already established.
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gsayeg1

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:48:59 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm - seems like just yesterday we were worrying about that duck and goose that may get harmed
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J Eric

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:46:55 PM
Didn't the Senate just, like, get sworn in with new members? So, they just pass a bill without discussing it? Ho-kay!
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WIWalt

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:46:12 PM
Really?
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gasmack

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Ventura
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:44:16 PM
THERE GOES THE NEIGHBORHOOD!
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drz614

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Harrisburg
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:43:15 PM
folks, do u really believe this gas will hit the lower 48? it is destined for overseas markets.
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Prodaddy

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:43:12 PM
I think CNG vehicles would be better
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Gassed01

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:40:34 PM
The resources aren't any good if you can't get them out.
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SavALot

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:35:26 PM
drill baby drill
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charg3rguy1991

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Greensboro
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:34:39 PM
doesn't sound like a good idea. Just spend the extra coin and build around the park. I mean National Parks are protected land for a reason.
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milespergallon

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:30:00 PM
Now we need NATURAL GAS BASED vehicles on our roads
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FuelOilOH

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:28:58 PM
If the State of Alaska don't mind building it, I don't mind if they do.
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bevmill

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:28:00 PM
That's good.
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SpankyMI

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:25:51 PM
Did the Senators get the EPAs blessing on this deal?
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grandamgt1

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:22:45 PM
Good, now let's work on that 2013 budget.
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hrtdi

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Vermont
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:21:51 PM
we need oil for sure. Let's just hope that it will be done with the objectives of minimizing impacts on the wildlife and environnement and not only for profits...
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Yonkers111

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Scranton
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:21:22 PM
Maybe the park will collect fees and generate some income.
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nwsynthetics

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:21:04 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
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carloco75

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:20:06 PM
In a park...hmmm...great place for it...
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MINIWINI598

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Washington
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:18:15 PM
Preventing disturbances to wildlife and environment - I think not!
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:13:06 PM
a last ditch effort before the Senate regrouped
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BMWer

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:11:38 PM
The Senate actually approved a bill??
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rjoeh

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:09:24 PM
Remarkable... the democratically controlled senate actually passed a bill that does not SHI... on the rest of the population. Now if they could only pass a budget as required by law for the first time in more than 4 years... then that would really be news.
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Carol7777

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Houston
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:08:46 PM
I know we need the oil. However, Denali is a magnificent park & wildlife preserve. It would diminish a national treasure if there are adverse effects on the environment or wildlife.
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SandeeC

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:07:48 PM
It's all wait and see. We need the gas and some way to get it down south. So it makes sense to put it through an existing corridor. As for leaks - there's always a danger. So just do it safely!
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PissedATthePump

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:07:33 PM
A "pipeline through Denali" sounds more shocking than the reality. At least someone is using their head and plan to limit the impact of this pipeline by keeping it within an existing right of way.
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Cellsite

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Appleton
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 10:06:10 PM
Build it!
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